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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The progress of hacking guile and prolog
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 22:26:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wro1w0vb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AANLkTi=6irK6naatSmcDBEs+wNQvOYXTikX5CAc5kq7O@mail.gmail.com

Hi!

Noah Lavine <noah.b.lavine@gmail.com> writes:

> What I'm thinking of is like racket contracts, but with the idea of
> "trusted modules", which might involve static checking. For instance,
> if the contract is that map's second parameter is a list, you'd
> normally want to check that. But if a module that used map could
> guarantee that it would always pass a list as the second argument,
> then you'd arrange things so the second module could skip the type
> check.

In Guile, modules are dynamic by nature: they are assembled at run-time
(everything is “dynamically linked”).  My feeling is that cross-module
static analysis doesn’t fit well in this framework.

> I'm curious in general though whether it would be possible and
> worthwhile to statically check programmer-defined ideas, as long as
> the interface is easy enough to use. For instance, what if you could
> ask Guile to check that your tree structure always remained a binary
> tree?

I think you’ll be interested in dependent types:

  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dependent_types

Though I’d recommend working on JIT for Guile before you get stuck in a
meta-circular Curry-Howardish enlightenment period.  :-)

Thanks,
Ludo’.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-25 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21 20:23 The progress of hacking guile and prolog Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-03 23:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-04  2:40   ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-10 17:55     ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-11 19:10       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-11 16:26     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-11 19:13       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-11 19:15       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-15 23:10     ` Typechecking I Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-20 11:46       ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-20 11:25     ` The progress of hacking guile and prolog Andy Wingo
2010-11-24  1:54       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-24 16:45         ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-24 18:00         ` piper schemigan Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-24 20:18           ` Andreas Rottmann
2010-11-25 21:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-26 22:18             ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-28 22:30               ` Guile-SCSH Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-28 23:02                 ` Guile-SCSH Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-28 23:24                   ` Guile-SCSH Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2010-11-29 18:56                     ` Guile-SCSH Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-29 21:26                     ` http://gitorious.org/guile-scsh/guile-scsh Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-30 23:21                       ` Guile-Facade Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-25 21:26         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2010-11-26 16:41           ` The progress of hacking guile and prolog Noah Lavine
2010-11-26 10:45         ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-20 11:26     ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-04 17:57   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-05 21:19   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-19 23:11     ` GLIL->C compilation Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-19 23:20       ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-19 23:56         ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-20 12:18           ` Andy Wingo

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