From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark H Weaver Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:05:52 -0400 Message-ID: <87wod0mzqs.fsf@netris.org> References: <87blugg7dt.fsf@pobox.com> <87blugemdk.fsf@dustycloud.org> <83imooekn1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="145777"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 19 19:07:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsC0-000bib-QZ for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:07:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsBz-0006f1-3G for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsBt-0006eh-Kz for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsBs-0004Hb-EJ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:41930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsBs-0004Ez-Ax; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:06:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLsBp-0000Td-Tq; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:06:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83imooekn1.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 64.112.178.59 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20118 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Christopher Lemmer Webber >> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:33:11 -0400 >> Cc: Andy Wingo >> >> I'm extremely saddened to see RMS pull this move. It seriously >> undermines faith for maintainers of GNU projects that ther is any >> semblance of fair governance, and that the rug can't be pulled out from >> under their feet at any time. > > To reach such conclusions, we'd need to hear a first-hand report of > what exactly did RMS and Mark say in their (presumed) off-list > exchange. Indeed, there was a misunderstanding. For the record, please see: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00031.html Thanks, Mark