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From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Guile community we could have (or: solving Worse is More Accessible)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 09:48:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vba1io6i.fsf@dustycloud.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lhayx706.fsf@gnu.org>

Ludovic Courtès writes:

> Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:
>
>> To put it another way, many here have probably read the "Worse is
>> Better" essays.  That paradox of "better" I think sticks in the craw of
>> many lispers; something both seems wrong and yet frustratingly right
>> about it.  Maybe another way to look at it: "Worse is more accessible",
>> or "worse has the path of least resistance", or also importantly, "worse
>> is where I felt welcomed."  Given that, no wonder many people feel safe
>> and better rather than what lispers believe is "the right thing".
>>
>> But maybe we could have both.  I believe it requires effort, and perhaps
>> a rebranding of imagery.  The wizard towers are still there if you want
>> them... I doubt any lisper or schemer will give up on Guile or Scheme
>> because of some fun and inviting drawings.  The fun drawings don't take
>> anything away!  But they add something: they make Guile feel like
>> somplace, even as a newcomer, you might belong.
>
> I’ve had your message and thoughts in the back of my mind for some time
> and yes, your characterization of wizardry and the message it conveys to
> newcomers, suggesting both a place where “magical” things happen and an
> intimidating community, makes a lot of sense to me.
>
> The new web site seems like a way to improve that image, indeed!
>
> Ludo’.

\o/



      reply	other threads:[~2015-10-20 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-15 19:23 New logo and website design proposal Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-15 19:43 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-09-15 23:48   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-15 21:05 ` David Pirotte
2015-09-15 23:55   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  0:12     ` Nala Ginrut
2015-09-15 21:31 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-09-16  0:38   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-21 20:40   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-09-23 16:18     ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-23 21:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-09 22:24       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-10 11:40         ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-10-10 14:49         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-10-10 17:24         ` Thompson, David
2015-10-10 19:17           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-11 20:11             ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-11 21:39               ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 13:23                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12 21:13                   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-18 17:58                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-18 18:06                       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-20 12:50                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-20 14:58                           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-20 15:05                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-20 20:13                               ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-26 23:24                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-27 14:46                                   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-27 18:15                           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-11-05  9:56                             ` New web site is live! Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12  6:07         ` New logo and website design proposal Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2015-10-12 13:26           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12 13:06             ` tomas
2015-10-12 18:15             ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 18:59               ` tomas
2015-10-12 20:32               ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-10-12  8:15         ` Nala Ginrut
2015-10-12 18:00           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 17:03         ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2015-10-12 18:20           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  6:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-09-17 14:33   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  8:19 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2015-09-17 14:59   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-17 15:09     ` Thompson, David
2015-09-18  9:47     ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-09-23 15:17       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-25 23:28         ` The Guile community we could have (or: solving Worse is More Accessible) Christopher Allan Webber
2015-09-26  8:04           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-09-26  9:04             ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2015-10-20  8:46           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-20 14:48             ` Christopher Allan Webber [this message]

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