From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:07:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv8726lm.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r23c4109.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:24:27 -0400")
Mark H Weaver writes:
> Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:
>> Before the RMS/GNU/FSF conversation started, Mark Weaver left Guile, for
>> essentially unrelated reasons. He threatened to leave because he wished
>> to be consulted before I landed mixed definitions and expressions and
>> shipped them in the 2.9.4 release;
>
> The funny thing is, I don't actually have a strong opinion on this
> particular change.
>
> What I *do* have a strong opinion on is that you made the decision
> unilaterally, without discussion on the mailing list
I have been worrying a bit about this change because I do not see how to
implement it in Mes. I did not speak up because I believe that our
bootstrapping efforts should not hold Guile development back.
> Ludovic and I only found out about the change after the public
> announcements had already been made.
>
> Can you understand why I consider this behavior to be dictatorial?
Yes, I can see that now. However, having met Andy I could not have
imagined that something like that could have been his motivation. It
would be great if we all could spend some time together.
> For what it's worth, despite our disagreements, I still sincerely
> believe that you are acting in good faith, and fighting for what you
> believe is right. I hope that you can believe that I'm doing the same.
When you left that was pretty discouraging for me: I enjoyed and much
appreciated your recent help with the Guix bootstrap. Thank you for
that! I am happy you have decided to come back.
Greetings,
jannneke
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-17 7:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-16 13:14 conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Andy Wingo
2019-10-16 14:11 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-16 15:33 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-16 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 17:05 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-16 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:27 ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 19:30 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18 9:44 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-16 18:12 ` Jean Louis
[not found] ` <CAGua6m3d_t2hd7P2ueTsPZytF7pNO7f8xptBWofPw9UvyYWDaw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-16 21:32 ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2019-10-16 21:56 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-10-16 22:05 ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-10-18 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18 10:37 ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-10-16 19:21 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-16 21:03 ` Linus Björnstam
2019-10-17 0:18 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-17 1:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-17 7:07 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen [this message]
2019-10-18 7:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-19 7:51 ` Guile and Mes [WAS: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-10-19 8:56 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 11:20 ` conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-18 13:33 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:49 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-17 1:40 ` Mike Gran
2019-10-17 2:11 ` Neil Van Dyke
2019-10-17 18:11 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18 9:26 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-19 4:03 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18 1:06 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-18 6:31 ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-18 9:20 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 14:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-19 22:55 ` Taylan Kammer
2019-10-20 3:08 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-20 3:54 ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-20 19:12 ` Taylan Kammer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-10-18 11:29 Todor Kondić
2019-10-18 15:09 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18 11:45 Mark H Weaver
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