From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Guile foreign object interface Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:44:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87shmpcibe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1644439317.409814.1488469678720.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1644439317.409814.1488469678720@mail.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488894307 31404 195.159.176.226 (7 Mar 2017 13:45:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 07 14:45:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clFQB-0007Jy-Qs for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:44:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49964 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clFQH-0002qP-Vl for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:45:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clFQ8-0002oX-VM for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:45:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clFQ6-0006zk-ED for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:44:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47675 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clFQ6-0006zf-7a for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:44:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clFPt-0005Vc-FQ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:44:41 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Followup-To: gmane.lisp.guile.user Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 17 =?utf-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 225 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Cancel-Lock: sha1:00MzVTYLtbiP150wYknwt31cn5E= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:18993 gmane.lisp.guile.user:13440 Archived-At: Hello! I think Mark made two kinds of comments back then: 1. There were suggestions about the API itself, nothing deep: . Andy, do you know if they’ve been addressed? 2. A general concern about “API churn” and our ability to support the SMOB API in the future, which I can sympathize with: . Essentially, (1) it should be easy for people to migrate from SMOBs to foreign objects (I think it’s largely a matter of documentation), and (2) existing code that uses the documented SMOB API should just work in 2.2, possibly with a deprecation warning. It may be that we’re already mostly there (?). If we get these two things right, then I have nothing against adding foreign objects in 2.2. Mark? Thanks, Ludo’.