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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Subject: Re: Backtrace and enhanced catch
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:26:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r771g6ut.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878xtca77p.fsf@laas.fr> ( Ludovic Courtès's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:38:02 +0100")

ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Yes, but internally, there is necessarily some form of `lazy-catch',

Not exactly, no.

> i.e., there is code that executes just after the exception was raised
> and just before the stack is unwound.

Yes, there is such code, but this is just part of what `lazy-catch' as
a whole needs to do.

>  So it seems that `catch' is just hiding this away.

`Hiding' is a loaded word.  I would agree that `catch' is
encapsulating the running of this code.  The whole point of my
analysis is that this is a good thing.

>> (BTW, in connection with `guard', which was called `try' in the
>> original draft of SRFI 34, I came across this email in the discussion
>> archive: http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-34/mail-archive/msg00013.html.
>> This email concludes:
>>
>>     Robust and portable code should only use the "try" form.
>>
>> for reasons connected to how dynamic state is handled that I think are
>> similar to the reasoning in my analysis.
>>
>> If accepted, this conclusion leaves SRFI-34 incomplete, because
>> try/guard provides no way of running something in the context of the
>> original error.)
>
> Well, you still have `with-exception-handler', except that it must be
> used carefully.

When I wrote "If accepted", I meant "If you agree that `robust and
portable code should only use the try form'", which implies that
with-exception-handler should not be used.

Thanks for your comments on this!

Regards,
        Neil



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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-21 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-01  0:16 gh_inexact_p error in 1.7.x Bruce Korb
2005-12-01  0:44 ` Kevin Ryde
2005-12-05  4:08   ` No way out Bruce Korb
2005-12-05  4:35     ` Bruce Korb
2005-12-07  1:31       ` Marius Vollmer
2005-12-05 22:20     ` Kevin Ryde
2005-12-06 10:58       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2005-12-28 15:59         ` Neil Jerram
2005-12-31 15:09           ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2005-12-31 15:14             ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-01 19:58               ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2006-01-02 15:42                 ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-02 18:54                   ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-04 21:13                     ` Backtrace and enhanced catch Neil Jerram
2006-01-14 12:41                       ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-22 13:47                         ` Marius Vollmer
2006-01-23 20:11                           ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-24 21:34                             ` Marius Vollmer
2006-01-16  8:38                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-01-18 23:08                         ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-19  9:38                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-01-21 11:26                             ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2006-01-26 23:29                       ` Kevin Ryde
2006-01-27 19:30                         ` Neil Jerram
2006-01-31 20:07                           ` Kevin Ryde
2006-02-01 23:04                             ` Neil Jerram
2006-02-04  0:46                               ` Kevin Ryde
2006-02-04 15:41                                 ` Neil Jerram
2005-12-07  1:07     ` No way out Marius Vollmer
2005-12-07  1:55       ` Rob Browning
2005-12-13 20:32         ` Marius Vollmer
2005-12-28 16:09       ` Neil Jerram

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