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From: ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès)
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: make-vtable
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:13:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r6suv5k2.fsf@laas.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877iunt6yl.fsf@zip.com.au> (Kevin Ryde's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2007 08:13:38 +1100")

Hi,

Kevin Ryde <user42@zip.com.au> writes:

> I made a bit of a start trying to improve the structures section of
> the manual, I always found it pretty hard to follow.  One big
> stumbling block for me was vtables, but I now see if you want to make
> a struct you have to make a vtable vtable, and from that a vtable, and
> only then your struct.  Seems hard work for casual users, if you're
> not (at first) interested in that second level of "type of type".

My understanding (which might be inaccurate) is that there is in fact no
such three-level indirection: in classic reflective OO terms,
`make-vtable-vtable' returns a "class" object which `make-struct' can
then use to return regular (i.e., non-class) objects.  In particular,
this example (from `structs.test') works:

     (let* ((vtable (make-vtable-vtable "pr" 0))
            (s1     (make-struct vtable 0 "hello"))
            (s2     (make-struct vtable 0 "hello")))
       ;; S1 and S2 are both "regular" one-field structs.
       (equal? s1 s2))

So I think it's even more confusing than it seems.  ;-)

I'd say that `make-vtable-vtable' is inappropriately named and should
really be `make-vtable'.  Does that make sense?

(Not to mention that the primary use of the term "vtable" is for
_method_ pointers in C++, which definitely has nothing to do with this.)

> How about something like this to just make a vtable from fields and
> optional printer func,
>
>     (define (make-vtable fields . print)
>       (apply make-struct (make-vtable-vtable "" 0) 0
>              (make-struct-layout fields)
>              print))

IIUC, `(define make-vtable make-vtable-vtable)' should suffice.

Thanks,
Ludovic.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-13  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-12 21:13 make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-02-13  8:13 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2007-02-13 21:26   ` make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-02-14  8:01     ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-14 20:51       ` make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-02-15  8:45         ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-16  0:07           ` make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-02-16  8:12             ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-18 18:10       ` make-vtable Neil Jerram
2007-02-18 20:05         ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès
2007-02-18 23:56           ` make-vtable Neil Jerram
2007-02-19  0:14             ` make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-02-19  0:39               ` make-vtable Neil Jerram
2007-02-19  8:39               ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès
2007-03-06  0:27                 ` make-vtable Kevin Ryde
2007-03-06  8:32                   ` make-vtable Ludovic Courtès

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