From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: The Big Switch to Git Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:07:52 +0100 Organization: sometimes Message-ID: <87r6dwjm4n.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <87abl1uved.fsf@gnu.org> <87wso3u12s.fsf@gnu.org> <878x0i2xr7.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bq53lnlk.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206627069 10847 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2008 14:11:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:11:09 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 15:11:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jesp0-0008Qy-Ch for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:11:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JesoO-0000Ww-L6 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JesoI-0000Wo-Uf for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JesoG-0000WD-9M for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JesoG-0000WA-3v for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:28 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JesoF-0000zO-Mk for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JesoB-0004sg-3E for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:10:23 +0000 Original-Received: from 151.61.142.225 ([151.61.142.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:10:23 +0000 Original-Received: from ttn by 151.61.142.225 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:10:23 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.61.142.225 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LyF7s/BH+CH+EbsRkAsGbMpgSxQ= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:7102 Archived-At: () Neil Jerram () Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:16:23 +0000 > It would be nice to have workbook and guile-scripts as peers of > guile-core, since that forms the minimal set to reproduce "cvs > checkout hack" of yore. (Basically, the cvs-module "hack" > included only those three cvs-modules.) I'm not aware that this "hack" collection has been doing anything for us recently. At least, it's true that guile-core does not currently depend on workbook, as it did once. It's only value would be for history browsing. Granted, that history is shallow; interest quickly moved away from the non-guile-core cvs modules. I'm sure there is stuff in workbook and guile-scripts that is still useful, but I prefer to import it lazily (and as and when it becomes a priority). That will also allow us to consider where each imported item should go within the Git repository. I urge you to reconsider. It's no big deal to import them and leave them be (for historians). You can even make them read-only. Wouldn't it make sense for guile-www to be a separate Savannah project? Yes. If Guile maintainers don't mind, i can pursue that angle. More precisely, i would create a Guile-WWW project on Savannah (w/ myself its sole administrator), make a Git repo available, shutdown the gnuvola guile-www Git repo, and post an announcement to the guile-user list. In case this sounds like I'm singling out guile-www, I've actually always had a problem understanding the structure and existence of the Guile CVS modules other than guile-core - and I think the fact that many of them are obsolete and/or bitrotted is a clue that this is a problem in practice. Yes, there's a lot of hoarding of lost bits, there. However, i think singling out Guile-WWW is fine; it has undergone continued development, whereas the others have not. thi