From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Internal visibility
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r6b42yyh.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wxdze2q.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:09:33 +0200")
() ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
() Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:09:33 +0200
Currently, Guile only supports `scm_to_locale_string ()', which means
the returned C string is encoded in the current locale's encoding.
Eventually, new functions may be added: `scm_to_utf8_string ()', etc.
This was Marius' original plan [0], and I think it remains valid.
Most plans are "valid" but not all plans are easy to live with.
I think the encoding of a string (or buffer or "character" array
(or subsequence thereof)) needs to be explicit; the encoding is
not purely "internal" and to treat it as such will require hoop-
jumping on both sides of the API. (How encoding support is
implemented, on the other hand, is indeed an internal affair.)
This is from observation of how Emacs attained multibyte-ness.
Note: not just "how Emacs does it" but "how Emacs used to not do
it and through time eventually came to do it".
In PostgreSQL's multibyte support, the i/o can be tempered by
setting the "client encoding". This can be changed cheaply (per
request). Basing encoding on locale only is not fine-grained
enough; setting the locale can be expensive and cause unrelated
changes.
See also GNU libc support (info "(libc) Character Set Handling"),
which applies similar principles at a lower (library) level.
All these programs chose not to expose many conversion functions
in the programming interface. Instead, they expose few functions,
each with an encoding parameter. That is surely a cleaner design.
thi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-11 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-07 23:46 [PATCH] Fix continuation problems on IA64 Neil Jerram
2008-05-08 20:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-05-08 21:29 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-09 8:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-05-09 22:19 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-11 3:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-05-12 21:02 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-14 3:45 ` Internal visibility Ludovic Courtès
2008-05-27 21:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-05-31 21:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-01 8:00 ` Neil Jerram
2008-06-01 11:05 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-01 20:48 ` Neil Jerram
2008-06-01 22:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-01 20:24 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-06-09 18:10 ` Neil Jerram
2008-06-10 1:51 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-06-10 7:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-10 8:04 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-06-10 12:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-11 7:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2008-06-11 12:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-12 20:45 ` Mike Gran
2008-06-23 12:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-11 4:05 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-06-11 7:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-11 7:24 ` Clinton Ebadi
2008-06-11 7:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-11 16:09 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-06-23 12:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-06-11 7:37 ` Neil Jerram
2008-05-12 22:18 ` [PATCH] Fix continuation problems on IA64 Neil Jerram
2008-05-14 2:55 ` Ludovic Courtès
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