From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A plea for local-eval in 2.0.4
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:59:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4z264nf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87pqen6qho.fsf@netris.org
Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:
> Probably the easiest way to think about it is that (the-environment)
> acts like (list (lambda () <expr>) ...), with one `lambda' for each
> expression that you will later pass to `local-eval'. Calling
> `local-eval' simply calls the appropriate procedure in that list.
Well, I experimented around a bit with lambda. How does this work in
practice? In Guilev1, the module is probably recorded as part of the
procedure-environment. In Guilev2, a variable reference is compiled?
How does that work when there is no such variable? It gets created with
an undefined binding?
> Calling the procedure created by a lambda expression evaluates the
> lambda body within the _lexical_ environment of the lambda expression,
> but within the _dynamic_ environment of the procedure call. Top-level
> variables are part of the _lexical_ environment. That means that
> top-level variable references within a procedure are looked up in the
> module where the procedure was defined, _not_ the (current-module) at
> the time of the procedure call.
Ok, here is the clincher and probably what I have actually confused this
with (it is a thin line): within local-eval, what is the return value of
calling (current-module)? I would expect that it is the same as outside
of local-eval so that (define x 5) inside of local-eval would _not_ be
equivalent to (module-define! (current-module) 'x 5) as the first one
would take the current module at the-environment time, and the second
one would take it at local-eval time.
Correct?
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-14 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-12 21:43 A plea for local-eval in 2.0.4 Mark H Weaver
2012-01-12 23:02 ` Bruce Korb
2012-01-13 9:20 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-13 16:21 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-13 18:50 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-14 1:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-14 8:59 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2012-01-14 15:04 ` Andy Wingo
2012-01-14 15:16 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-14 15:33 ` Andy Wingo
2012-01-14 16:17 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-14 17:20 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-14 17:59 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-14 18:04 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-14 18:35 ` David Kastrup
2012-01-14 19:04 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-14 15:24 ` Andy Wingo
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