From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Plan for 2.0 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:08:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87ocycsb88.fsf@gnu.org> References: <49dd78620901031038i6f6c678o5cebc21b217374d2@mail.gmail.com> <49dd78620901071516j4592684du81efaf04cd95742a@mail.gmail.com> <878wpl79ty.fsf@gnu.org> <49dd78620901090553q54c30420v6b4ee5edca903de0@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231780175 26173 80.91.229.12 (12 Jan 2009 17:09:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 12 18:10:46 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LMQJ5-0002AP-2o for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:10:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56355 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMQHo-00078y-B0 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMQHl-00078o-En for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMQHj-00077x-H3 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57580 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMQHj-00077u-Da for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:53334 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMQHj-0005Wx-12 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LMQHg-0000Y2-Ei for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:09:04 +0000 Original-Received: from 193.50.110.227 ([193.50.110.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:09:04 +0000 Original-Received: from ludo by 193.50.110.227 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:09:04 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.50.110.227 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 23 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Niv=F4se?= an 217 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 821D 815D 902A 7EAB 5CEE D120 7FBA 3D4F EB1F 5364 X-OS: i686-pc-linux-gnu User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yj2cucNLkmKh3PDus2/CNC0pzDI= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:7988 Archived-At: Hello, "Neil Jerram" writes: > That's good, but I think I didn't explain the possible problem fully, > i.e. that the substitute won't work. Because of how Guile saves and > restores continuations (by copying the stack), and how it uses alloca > to create space for debug information on the stack, we must have an > alloca() that really does use the stack, and not one that uses the > heap. And when I last checked, the common substitute definition of > alloca() uses the heap. Aaah, you're right. Then we should use the `alloca-opt' module instead, which does what we want AFAIU. (Note that systems without `alloca ()', are probably very rare.) > master has a line "serial 9", branch_release-1-8 doesn't. I believe > it's a standard of some kind to have a "serial" line, so we added it > in master, but preferred to avoid perturbing 1.8.x. Right, it's "good practice" (info "(automake) Serials"). >>> eval.c/eval.i.c >>> - still need to compare old eval.c against new eval.i.c >>> - why does eval.i.c contain code that is common to both modes and that >>> is not compiled twice? >> >> Like what? The top of the file is in `#ifdef DEVAL'. > > I would have thought that the point of eval.i.c is to hold the code > that gets compiled twice (debug and non-debug). If there is #ifdef > DEVAL code in eval.i.c, it seems to be better to move it back to > eval.c. Agreed. >>> SCM_INTERNAL (grep diffs for SCM_INTERNAL to get list of affected functions) >> >> Speaking of which, some functions were left external (e.g., >> `scm_i_string_chars ()') under the assumption that if we changed that in >> 1.8 (which was my plan back then) it would break apps. We may need to >> revise that. > > I can't immediately remember what the latest consensus on that was... IIRC, nobody cares. :-) Thanks, Ludo'.