From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: A vm for native code in guile Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87obnxreq5.fsf@pobox.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341267394 4323 80.91.229.3 (2 Jul 2012 22:16:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 22:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel To: Stefan Israelsson Tampe Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 03 00:16:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Slov1-0004i0-BD for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:16:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slov0-0002kM-6j for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:16:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slouw-0002ae-Tx for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slouu-0001FA-Ry for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:16:26 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com ([74.115.168.62]:59804 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Slouu-0001En-J4 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E48C642; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:16:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=ONKIMJUf7EJdblsG1D3LRoOYEfM=; b=d94FG2 dtWR38RYmR/gRAcMsPXVgxSD0ex9ZWri2aQnIBOjxVcw/rspit2zlh3ScMW48KlU 9zp8XUc+1IaZTZd0mco3XpvLcpswJrivE1gRKTMrS5Oww2oboM80BODrIzYkgDdO gb1KWAQ4/l/6gr9idRgM6fqq86RtbqecREYYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=QzoqipUJUUDThvez6hIH/MaILGQjld3+ W18kS3nt7Cp/OBvmPfy8mXCqD9BKoax5NEh86/Zz28YG4dYb2SiYUNPENKxUe4kl t2bEpD3F154HY8UUxvhQN3mOmdjPNovxU0A/T+xIF9xJSF7/EOZCQ+mPf91YlZfc kEAF6WSmOSw= Original-Received: from b-pb-sasl-sd. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F65EC641; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from badger (unknown [89.131.176.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72639C640; Mon, 2 Jul 2012 18:16:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of "Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:53:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 8DCE67A6-C493-11E1-BFBC-FA6787E41631-02397024!b-pb-sasl-sd.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 74.115.168.62 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:14691 Archived-At: On Mon 02 Jul 2012 09:53, Stefan Israelsson Tampe writes: > Anyway I can now compile simple functions to native sequences of machine code but with some > tools around it so let me explain the setup. Where is this code? Sorry for not following the context. I agree with you that maintenance is the challenge. Have you looked at wip-rtl, Stefan? It should be easier to compile. However it's not fully baked yet, unfortunately. To speak honestly I am very impressed with your work. I leave that as its own paragraph because that's what I think. However, with my conservative Guile co-maintainer hat on I still have hesitations as to its applicability to mainline Guile. You are very good at getting Guile to work for you, but I would like to see more incremental patches. I know that we have gone back and forth over the past couple years and this is probably frustrating to you. At the same time I think that your code, commits, and communication have gotten a _lot_ better over that time. If you have a complaint, please voice it. Otherwise we keep with this code review thing. What do you think about this situation? Peace, Andy -- http://wingolog.org/