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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: array handles and non-local exits
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:15:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87myi5g98g.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 49dd78620809171232n745ac8ecgd2c3936989ce723b@mail.gmail.com

Hi,

"Neil Jerram" <neiljerram@googlemail.com> writes:

>>>> and (2) I don't know of any other function that does a dynwind behind
>>>> the scenes (IOW, let's not break the "rule of least surprise").
>>
>> I meant "I don't know of a function that does a `dynwind_begin'
>> *alone*" (of course there are plenty of functions that do
>> `dynwind_begin' + `dynwind_end').
>
> Yes, I see what you mean now.  (The scm_dynwind_begin() being in
> scm_array_get_handle(), and the scm_dynwind_end() being in
> scm_array_release_handle().)

Yes.

>>> I think you're imagining a clear boundary here where there isn't one.
>>> If needed, either the scm_dynwind would be inside
>>> scm_array_get_handle, or it would be inside scm_uniform_vector_read.
>>> Both of those are public libguile functions, so where's the
>>> difference?
>>
>> The difference is that `scm_array_get_handle ()' is a low-level
>> function.  It may be used, say, in code that passes SRFI-4 vectors to C
>> that implements "performance-critical" code.  Adding consing in there
>> wouldn't feel right.
>
> If you add in " and which can't possibly do a non-local exit " there,
> I see your point.

Exactly.

>> Right, I hadn't thought about it, but as you mention, a dynwind in
>> `uniform-vector-read!' will only affect soft port implementations.
>
> With that in mind, do you think we need to solve this now?  I think
> this is low impact, so for now I'm inclined just to raise a bug in
> Savannah, containing our discussion so far, so that we don't forget
> it.

I submitted this bug:

  https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?24292

(Oops I forgot "and dynwinds" in the bug title...)

I would suggest that we drop that mention of dynwinds from the manual.

Thanks,
Ludo'.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-18  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-15 20:17 array handles and non-local exits Neil Jerram
2008-09-16  7:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-17 19:32   ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-18  8:15     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2008-09-18  9:17       ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-18 13:44         ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-06-30 22:59           ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-01  8:37             ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-01 22:04               ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-01 22:36                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-02 23:33                   ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-03 23:38                     ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-04 19:28         ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-05 11:14           ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-06 14:09             ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-06 20:30               ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-09 19:19                 ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-09 21:08                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-10 10:27                     ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-10 12:05                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-19 20:04                         ` Neil Jerram
2009-07-20  9:20                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-07-23 21:20                             ` Andy Wingo

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