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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: rfc: (add-hook 'before-save-hook 'delete-trailing-whitespace)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:22:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ljg2gk41.fsf@ambire.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bpgy5l9u.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:01 +0100")

() ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
() Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:01 +0100

   I agree, but adding such a hook would cause many gratuitous
   diffs, which then blur VCS history (using ‘git blame’ becomes
   almost useless).

Usually, once a project decides to use some whitespace policy,
there is a one-time change-only-whitespace commit after which
programmers are expected to adhere to the new policy (using
whatever tools they choose).  This way, the pain from gratuitous
diffs are minimized.

Another way to minimize pain is to instruct the diff program to
ignore whitespace (this means in practice `--ignore-space-change'
(-b) or `--ignore-space-at-eol' for "git diff").

Having said that, i see (count of affected lines by file below)
that even a one-time change will touch a lot of lines.  Hmmm.

   Instead, I’d suggest using ‘show-trailing-whitespace’.
   Unfortunately, that can’t be a per-file or per-directory local
   variable [0] so we can just kindly ask people to add it to
   their ‘.emacs’.  :-)

   What do you think?

I'd rather a clean break than relying on the chance that the
source will be opportunistically cleaned up going forward.

thi


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13  9:06 rfc: (add-hook 'before-save-hook 'delete-trailing-whitespace) Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-13 10:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-01-13 14:22   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2010-01-21 20:31   ` Neil Jerram
2010-01-21 20:44     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-01-13 20:02 ` Andy Wingo
2010-01-13 20:45   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-14  0:10     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-01-21 20:46 ` Neil Jerram
2010-01-23  0:38   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-23 16:10     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-02-09 13:30       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-02-14 14:20         ` Ludovic Courtès

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