From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Guile Lua Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:25:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87lidvhyuu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d2zc6vla.fsf@googlemail.com> <1353292230.5256.23.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> <87lidxti7b.fsf@gnu.org> <1353468038.5256.84.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353504372 2491 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2012 13:26:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: nalaginrut Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 21 14:26:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAJq-0001vZ-GF for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:26:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAJg-0001c0-2g for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:26:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57395) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAJK-0001FW-IS for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:25:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAJA-0001ur-HU for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:e0b:1:123:ca0a:a9ff:fe03:271e] (port=56754 helo=xanadu.aquilenet.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAJA-0001u5-BB for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xanadu.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191E0A8CC; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:25:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from xanadu.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xanadu.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q-99KlWNM+60; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:25:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by xanadu.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B38C2E36; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:25:29 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 Frimaire an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <1353468038.5256.84.camel@Renee-desktop.suse> (nalaginrut@gmail.com's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:20:38 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130005 (Ma Gnus v0.5) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2a01:e0b:1:123:ca0a:a9ff:fe03:271e X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:15225 Archived-At: Hi! nalaginrut skribis: > I switch to lua branch then compiled it and try, seems some bugs there, > it can't run successfully: > -------------------cut-------------------- > scheme@(guile-user)> ,L lua > Happy hacking with Lua! To switch back, type `,L scheme'. > lua@(guile-user)> x=3D1 Maybe you need a semicolon here? > And I checked the code, it doen't use Guile inner LALR parser. > Anybody point me out what is the suggested parser implementation? (system base lalr). > And is there anyone ever evaluated the efficiency about the non-scheme > language implemented within Guile?=20 I don=E2=80=99t think so. Only the Scheme and Emacs Lisp front-end are reasonably mature, anyway. > Anyway, this wouldn't be a big problem, since Guile could be the > future dynamic language compiler collection, it could be optimized > later. FWIW, I don=E2=80=99t quite buy the =E2=80=9Cdynamic language compiler coll= ection=E2=80=9D. Others tried this before (Parrot), with some success in terms of supported languages, but not much beyond that. In terms of strategy, I think Guile=E2=80=99s focus should remain primarily= on Scheme variants, and ELisp. Other language front-ends are of course welcome, but we must keep an eye on what the demand is. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.