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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Guile community we could have (or: solving Worse is More Accessible)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:46:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhayx706.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87io6yrp6x.fsf@dustycloud.org

Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:

> To put it another way, many here have probably read the "Worse is
> Better" essays.  That paradox of "better" I think sticks in the craw of
> many lispers; something both seems wrong and yet frustratingly right
> about it.  Maybe another way to look at it: "Worse is more accessible",
> or "worse has the path of least resistance", or also importantly, "worse
> is where I felt welcomed."  Given that, no wonder many people feel safe
> and better rather than what lispers believe is "the right thing".
>
> But maybe we could have both.  I believe it requires effort, and perhaps
> a rebranding of imagery.  The wizard towers are still there if you want
> them... I doubt any lisper or schemer will give up on Guile or Scheme
> because of some fun and inviting drawings.  The fun drawings don't take
> anything away!  But they add something: they make Guile feel like
> somplace, even as a newcomer, you might belong.

I’ve had your message and thoughts in the back of my mind for some time
and yes, your characterization of wizardry and the message it conveys to
newcomers, suggesting both a place where “magical” things happen and an
intimidating community, makes a lot of sense to me.

The new web site seems like a way to improve that image, indeed!

Ludo’.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-20  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-15 19:23 New logo and website design proposal Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-15 19:43 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-09-15 23:48   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-15 21:05 ` David Pirotte
2015-09-15 23:55   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  0:12     ` Nala Ginrut
2015-09-15 21:31 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-09-16  0:38   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-21 20:40   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-09-23 16:18     ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-23 21:12       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-09 22:24       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-10 11:40         ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-10-10 14:49         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-10-10 17:24         ` Thompson, David
2015-10-10 19:17           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-11 20:11             ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-11 21:39               ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 13:23                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12 21:13                   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-18 17:58                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-18 18:06                       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-20 12:50                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-20 14:58                           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-20 15:05                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-20 20:13                               ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-26 23:24                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-27 14:46                                   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-27 18:15                           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-11-05  9:56                             ` New web site is live! Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12  6:07         ` New logo and website design proposal Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2015-10-12 13:26           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-12 13:06             ` tomas
2015-10-12 18:15             ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 18:59               ` tomas
2015-10-12 20:32               ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-10-12  8:15         ` Nala Ginrut
2015-10-12 18:00           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-10-12 17:03         ` Aleix Conchillo Flaqué
2015-10-12 18:20           ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  6:43 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-09-17 14:33   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-16  8:19 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2015-09-17 14:59   ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-17 15:09     ` Thompson, David
2015-09-18  9:47     ` Amirouche Boubekki
2015-09-23 15:17       ` Luis Felipe López Acevedo
2015-09-25 23:28         ` The Guile community we could have (or: solving Worse is More Accessible) Christopher Allan Webber
2015-09-26  8:04           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-09-26  9:04             ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2015-10-20  8:46           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2015-10-20 14:48             ` Christopher Allan Webber

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