From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix for `submodules' in (ice-9 session) (closes #30062) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87k4n5ksr7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1283257143-24354-1-git-send-email-jao@gnu.org> <87occi34ry.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> <87bp8i2x9e.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> <877hj5r7rt.fsf@gnu.org> <87y6blyyec.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283379845 22680 80.91.229.12 (1 Sep 2010 22:24:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:24:05 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 02 00:24:04 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oqvit-0001KM-HQ for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:24:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32844 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oqvis-00031q-MZ for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57560 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oqvio-00030o-CA for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oqvin-0000Ya-5I for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oqvim-0000YG-S8 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oqvii-0001Fr-Ql for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:52 +0200 Original-Received: from yoda.fdn.fr ([80.67.169.18]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:52 +0200 Original-Received: from ludo by yoda.fdn.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:23:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: yoda.fdn.fr X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 16 Fructidor an 218 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volutio?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?n?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qcc7qUqgPxldsvysezNarRrb6EE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10833 Archived-At: Hello! "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" writes: > On Wed, Sep 01 2010, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" writes: >> >>> (I'm still curious about the meaning of the >>> modules with gensyms as names, though.) >> >> psyntax expects modules to have a name so that it can refer to them in >> expanded code. Thus, there can be no anonymous modules: modules are >> always given a name, see ‘module-name’. This allows things like the >> “compile in fresh module” test to work. > > I see. But then, aren't those modules something internal to psyntax's > workings? No, they’re not internal. They’re just (pseudo-)anonymous modules that ended up in the module hierarchy, like any other module. Evaluate (module-name (make-module)) and you’ve added another one. :-) > And if so, shouldn't they be filtered out from the return value of > module-submodules (or not be traversed by the apropos-fold)? As a user > of those procedures, i find the appearance of those modules a bit > confusing (the only use case in client code i can think of is when > using the return value of current-module). Am i missing something? I agree that as users we’d rather not see these modules, especially from Geiser. But they have to be there. So, unless I’m missing an elegant design trick to avoid this, I think you’re bound to use heuristics to filter them out (e.g., get rid of modules whose name contains white spaces.) Thanks, Ludo’.