From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Sting abstraction 2 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:32:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87hbzfmjtv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1242833049.32575.7271.camel@localhost.localdomain> <878wkreayf.fsf@gnu.org> <112865.34993.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242862387 26814 80.91.229.12 (20 May 2009 23:33:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Mike Gran Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 21 01:33:00 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M6vHQ-0002Vw-E7 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 01:33:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33646 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M6vHP-0004SJ-Ei for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M6vHK-0004S4-T1 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M6vHF-0004Rs-Ey for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43863 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M6vHF-0004Rp-9i for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.82]:11244) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6vHE-0008Nh-Qf for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 19:32:49 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,224,1241388000"; d="scan'208";a="29689213" Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr (HELO nixey) ([80.67.176.83]) by mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 21 May 2009 01:32:46 +0200 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 2 Prairial an 217 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 821D 815D 902A 7EAB 5CEE D120 7FBA 3D4F EB1F 5364 X-OS: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <112865.34993.qm@web37907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Mike Gran's message of "Wed, 20 May 2009 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:8499 Archived-At: Hey, Mike Gran writes: > So, same patches, different order, better testing.=A0 Just try to git > er done. OK, thanks for the explanation. > (Did I ever mention this backtrace tree > pic?=A0=A0http://www.lonelycactus.com/uploaded_images/test[1]-765536.PNG= =A0 > It shows that for all the scripts the test suite, all of the calls to > low-level read and write pass through those two functions.) Nice. I suppose you had breakpoints in GDB, captured the output of "bt", frobbed it and fed it to `dot'? > I have changed my=A0opinion on one issue. I don't believe that Guile > ports should have a specific encoding:=A0they should just use the > locale.=A0 This is just pragmatism.=A0 Guile ports and the default reader > are annoying things to hack.=A0 I am loathe to touch them more than is > necessary.=A0 > > The R6RS ports have the nice transcoder idea.=A0 It might be more fun to > push port-specific encodings to that library.=A0 Are you saying that we'd have an implementation of the R6 port API that DTRT, whereas Guile's current API would remain encoding-oblivious? Thanks! Ludo'.