From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Import your CK macro into Guile? Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:26:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87haofcc0v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87625e7hfe.fsf@tines.lan> <87ip9d1gn9.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4o19sqn.fsf@tines.lan> <87r4njewsp.fsf@gnu.org> <87pq333hgd.fsf@tines.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353767214 19654 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2012 14:26:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Mark H Weaver Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 24 15:27:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcGhF-0002hb-HW for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:27:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcGh4-0005s4-Om for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:26:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcGh2-0005rz-Bl for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:26:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcGh1-0001hc-DI for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:26:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:e0b:1:123:ca0a:a9ff:fe03:271e] (port=55487 helo=xanadu.aquilenet.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcGh1-0001gK-6k for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:26:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xanadu.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09372AC6F; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:26:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from xanadu.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xanadu.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id da4IKw2RCSQX; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:26:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by xanadu.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A24FAA9F; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:26:40 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 4 Frimaire an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87pq333hgd.fsf@tines.lan> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:41:54 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130005 (Ma Gnus v0.5) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2a01:e0b:1:123:ca0a:a9ff:fe03:271e X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:15243 Archived-At: Hi, Mark H Weaver skribis: > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Mark H Weaver skribis: >> >>> Apologies if I mishandled this, but the problem here is that the code >>> had no explicit license or copying permission notice. If it had been >>> explicitly published as free software, I certainly would not have >>> bothered him about it. >> >> There are still two errors in the file: >> >> 1. There=E2=80=99s a line =E2=80=9Ccopyright FSF=E2=80=9D; >> >> 2. The file says to be GPLv3+. >> >> Could you fix that by removing the line and stating its actual license? >> >> My guess is that Oleg Kiselyov did not bother adding a license >> boilerplate that would be longer than the actual code, but that=E2=80=99= s still >> a bit embarrassing. Is there an official statement somewhere about its >> status? > > As I wrote above, Oleg's code had no explicit license or copying > permission notice. I took 15 lines of his code, which is not "legally > significant" according to my reading of the GNU maintainers guile. I > then reworked the code to use an auxillary macro instead of the > string-literal hack. For that reason I added the FSF copyright. OK, makes sense, since you modified it anyway (I had forgotten that.) It just stroke me when looking at the file to see =E2=80=9Ccopyright FSF=E2= =80=9D and no copyright line for Oleg; but as you say the copyright line doesn=E2=80=99t = mean much here. > I then sent Oleg a copy of the file that I proposed for inclusion > (with the FSF copyright and the GPLv3+ notice) and asked him if he'd > be willing to contribute it to Guile, calling his attention to the > attached file. He agreed in a message sent to the guile-devel mailing > list. I know, but =E2=80=9Cwould you like to contribute it to Guile=E2=80=9D does= n=E2=80=99t mean anything in legal terms. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.