From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Terbeck Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Recursive Macros generating Definitions Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 22:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87h70klkgn.fsf@ft.bewatermyfriend.org> References: <87zgedkuqc.fsf@ft.bewatermyfriend.org> <939c81ae-5b12-1910-5fbd-8ad99a697da6@telenet.be> <87lepxkosv.fsf@ft.bewatermyfriend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Maxime Devos , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Abou Samra Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 23:12:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofSjc-0002Q5-7f for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 23:12:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35752 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofSjb-0004LP-1p for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 17:12:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofS4I-0000GP-Bn for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 16:29:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de ([80.67.18.14]:13531) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofS4G-0003C5-RN for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 16:29:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.155.197.123] (helo=jim.voodoo.lan) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ofS4J-0002e5-KZ; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 22:29:39 +0200 Original-Received: by jim.voodoo.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45D44634A44; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 22:29:28 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Jean Abou Samra's message of "Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:42:39 +0200") X-Df-Sender: NDMwNDQ0 Received-SPF: none client-ip=80.67.18.14; envelope-from=ft@bewatermyfriend.org; helo=smtprelay02.ispgateway.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21383 Archived-At: Hey! Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 03/10/2022 =C3=A0 15:41, Frank Terbeck a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >> I get the point, but I think it's sort of surprising, when everything in >> the macro-language is otherwise quite literal, to my understanding. It >> may be warranted to point this out in the documentation that this is a >> side effect of hygienic macros, I think. > > It *is* extensively documented. > > https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Hygiene-and-the-Top_0= 02dLevel.html#Hygiene-and-the-Top_002dLevel Thanks! I had to check when that was added. I would have guessed recent- ly, but it wasn't. =E2=80=A6so, I guess I don't have an excuse. :) [=E2=80=A6] > I think it is worth taking a look not just at the Guile documentation but= also > at the Scheme standards, which are more verbose on the details of syntax-= >datum > and such. See > > http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-13.html > Indeed. That's a nice reference, thanks! I didn't realise there was such a document about the library section of r6rs. Useful! Regards, Frank