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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: Peter TB Brett <peter@peter-b.co.uk>, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Implement `the-environment' and `local-eval' in evaluator
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:12:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwgkib53.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k45wif7l.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:44:30 -0500")

I wrote:
> Having thought more about this, I'm fully convinced that 'module-a
> should be the answer.

On second thought, I don't think my argument was very solid.  My nephew
demanded my attention while I was working on that email, and so I rushed
it out when I should have put it aside and pondered some more.

So, in cases where (the-environment) is found within a macro template,
I guess I'm still undecided about whether the captured expander
environment should be at the point of (the-environment), or whether it
should be at the point of the initial macro use that led to that
expansion.

However, I'm fairly sure that those are the only two sane options, and I
feel quite certain that the module used by `local-eval' should be taken
from the captured expander environment, whatever that may be.

Do people agree with that those are the two sane options?
Any thoughts on which one is more useful?

I guess we should try to come up with examples of useful macros that use
(the-environment), and hope that these examples point to a clear winner.

For that matter, in the unlikely case that both options seem genuinely
useful, it wouldn't be hard to implement both, since they would both
translate to the same `tree-il' type.  The only difference would be in
the expander, since it puts the <expander-environment> into the tree-il
node, and that piece of code is only a few lines.

Thoughts?

     Best,
      Mark



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-16 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-03 15:45 Anything better for delayed lexical evaluation than (lambda () ...)? David Kastrup
2011-12-03 16:44 ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-06 14:55 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-12-06 15:45   ` David Kastrup
2011-12-06 19:50 ` Marco Maggi
2011-12-11  9:33   ` David Kastrup
2011-12-11  9:51     ` David Kastrup
2011-12-12  5:21     ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-12  6:47       ` David Kastrup
2011-12-12 18:29         ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-12 19:56           ` David Kastrup
2011-12-12 20:39             ` rixed
2011-12-12 21:02               ` David Kastrup
2011-12-12 21:58                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-12 21:40             ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-12 21:50           ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13  9:02             ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 13:05               ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 13:56                 ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 14:34                   ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 15:27                     ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 15:48                       ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 16:08                         ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 16:27                           ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 16:54                             ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 18:58                               ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 22:23                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 17:28                             ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-13 18:49                               ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 19:15                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-13 23:00                                   ` Noah Lavine
2011-12-13 23:16                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 23:44                                       ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 23:39                                     ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 23:45                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 10:15                                         ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-14 10:32                                           ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14  0:30                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14  8:16                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14  0:42                                       ` Noah Lavine
2011-12-14  0:47                                       ` Noah Lavine
2011-12-14  1:30                                     ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14  7:50                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14  8:48                                         ` [PATCH] Implement `capture-lexical-environment' in evaluator Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14  9:08                                           ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14  9:36                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-16  9:21                                           ` [PATCH] Implement `the-environment' and `local-eval' " Mark H Weaver
2011-12-16  9:32                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-12-16 14:00                                               ` Peter TB Brett
2011-12-16 14:26                                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-12-16 15:27                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-16 16:01                                                   ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-16 17:44                                                     ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-16 19:12                                                       ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2012-01-07  1:26                                                         ` Andy Wingo
2012-01-07 17:30                                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2012-01-07  1:18                                                       ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-16 16:59                                                   ` Hans Aberg
2011-12-14 10:08                                         ` Anything better for delayed lexical evaluation than (lambda () ...)? Andy Wingo
2011-12-14 10:27                                           ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 13:35                                             ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-14 15:21                                               ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 15:55                                                 ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-14 17:26                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14 18:23                                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 18:38                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14 19:14                                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 19:44                                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 22:56                                                 ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-14 11:03                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14 11:18                                             ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 13:31                                             ` Noah Lavine
2011-12-14 21:03                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2011-12-14 22:12                                                 ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 22:24                                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 22:55                                                 ` Andy Wingo
2011-12-13 16:24                         ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 15:52                       ` David Kastrup
2011-12-13 11:14             ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 13:52             ` Ludovic Courtès
2011-12-14 14:27               ` David Kastrup
2011-12-14 21:30                 ` Ludovic Courtès

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