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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Growable arrays?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:08:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwa2dxmh.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hauku0mb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2012 14:32:28 +0200")

Hi David,

You raise an interesting issue.  But first, a nitpick :)

On Sat 09 Jun 2012 14:32, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> Scheme hashtable

To be very pedantic, there are no hashtables in R5RS Scheme.  SRFI-69
and R6RS specify them (in different ways), but do not mandate that they
grow.  Guile's do grow, but that's a detail.

The underlying message important:  _Scheme_ doesn't give you much in the
way of data structures.  It does give you some good tools to define new
data structures, though.

Guile (as an implementation) also provides a few data structures
built-in.  It could provide more.

But, I don't think that "table" is the right strategy for what you want.

Lua (and JS) implementations typically have many different
implementation strategies for their table-like objects.  For example, V8
has over two dozen.  I don't think we want to pull all that complexity
into the core of Guile where it's not necessary for idiomatic Guile
programming.  It would certainly exist in the language-specific runtime,
though.  Perhaps a module would be more appropriate, though whether
something that fundamental could be shared between any two languages is
tricky.

You might enjoy
http://blog.mrale.ph/post/24351748336/explaining-js-vm-in-js.

For your particular problem, I would just define a new data type,
<growable-vector> or so, perhaps using srfi-9.

Regards,

Andy
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-11  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-09 12:32 Growable arrays? David Kastrup
2012-06-09 14:43 ` Krister Svanlund
2012-06-09 17:35   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11  4:23 ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11  4:37   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11  5:00     ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11  7:25       ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11  9:01         ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11  9:13           ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11 10:38             ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 11:57               ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11 12:13         ` Noah Lavine
2012-06-11 12:28           ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 23:50             ` Mark H Weaver
2012-06-12  9:34               ` David Kastrup
2012-06-12 20:34                 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-06-12 20:47                   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-12 21:03                     ` Mark H Weaver
2012-06-12 21:18                       ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11  8:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-06-11  9:08 ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2012-06-11  9:55   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 11:25     ` Andy Wingo
2012-06-11 12:00       ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 12:12         ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 12:20           ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 13:04             ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11 14:19               ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 15:24                 ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2012-06-11 15:27                 ` Andy Wingo
2012-06-11 16:03                   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 12:20         ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-11 12:36           ` David Kastrup
2012-06-11 12:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2012-06-12 13:36 ` Hans Aberg
2012-06-14 14:33 ` Mark H Weaver
2012-06-14 14:47   ` David Kastrup
2012-06-14 15:23     ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-14 15:34       ` David Kastrup
2012-06-14 16:56         ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-14 17:15           ` David Kastrup
2012-06-14 17:23             ` Daniel Hartwig
2012-06-14 17:49               ` David Kastrup

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