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From: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>
Subject: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)
Date: 10 Oct 2002 10:34:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87elayk7zr.fsf@alice.rotty.yi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bs62eufb.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>

Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> writes:

> Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at> writes:
> 
> > Yes, that's a clear disadvantage. However, in what environments does
> > that requirement exist? If you have a configure option, you can decide
> > both ways. There could even be a debian package 'guile' (with a C
> > linked executable) and a 'guile-c++' one, linked with g++, replacing
> > 'guile' (or the other way round with a c++-linked guile as
> > default). Then C++ plugins could depend on guile-c++. However, I get
> > too much into debian pkg management now, I guess *waves to Rob*.
> 
> I think this might be possible, but if it meant that not only guile,
> but every lib and app that was linked against guile would have to be
> packaged two ways, then it's probably not feasible.
> 
It's just about the main program (executable). Libs and thus modules
won't be affected. Apps can decide wether they want to support guile
modules written in C++ (and be linked appropriatly).

> > It is not possible to load this plugins with some C++ constructs
> > (e.g. exceptions, don't know the full list), since guile
> > crashes.
> 
> Are we talking about guile functions calling c++ functions, or c++
> functions calling guile functions here, and are we talking about the
> c++ code being accessed via guile loaded (dynamic-link)ed shared
> libraries or via direct linking/loadinga?
> 
c++ code being loaded into guile dynamically (i.e. shared libs).

> Also is there a description of the problem available anywhere? i.e. in
> the case of exceptions where c code is calling c++ code, is it a
> problem if the c++ code throws an exception at all, or only if it
> tries to throw one up to the c level.  If the latter, then can the c++
> code just be required to have a catch-all "catch" at the top-level in
> all of the functions guile will be calling?
> 
Sorry, there is no definite explanation (at least i didn't find
one). However, I'm going to investigate this more. It seems it may
have to do with most C++ shared libs ending up being linked by gcc
instead of g++ (due to a libtool bug).

Regards, Andy
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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-28 10:58 What can I do to help? Dr William Bland
2002-09-28 16:19 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-09-30  8:56   ` Dr William Bland
2002-09-30 10:57     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-09-30 11:47       ` Dr William Bland
2002-09-30 17:59       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-09-30 18:27         ` Dale P. Smith
2002-09-30 18:52         ` Neil Jerram
2002-09-30 19:22         ` Tom Lord
2002-09-30 18:30       ` Tom Lord
2002-09-30 22:49         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-01  2:56           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-13 16:50           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-19 11:34             ` Jeff Read
2002-09-30 18:38     ` Neil Jerram
2002-09-30 22:35       ` Derek Atkins
     [not found]         ` <warlord@MIT.EDU>
2002-09-30 23:33           ` gnucash
2002-09-30 23:49             ` Derek Atkins
2002-10-01  8:43               ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-01 14:15                 ` Derek Atkins
2002-10-01 15:00                   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 16:40               ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 23:15               ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-02 16:34             ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02 16:28         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-02  9:18       ` Martin Grabmueller
2002-09-30 16:13 ` Rob Browning
2002-09-30 18:39   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-01 17:14 ` What can I do to help? (conclusions) Dr William Bland
2002-10-02 23:15   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-03 17:14   ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 10:01     ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-04 10:57     ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-10-04 12:26     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-10-04 13:29       ` rm
2002-10-04 16:14         ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-06 17:08           ` rm
2002-10-06 17:34             ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-06 23:23               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07  4:03                 ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 16:31                   ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 17:27                     ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 20:05                     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 20:55                       ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-10  5:26                         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-10  8:34                           ` Andreas Rottmann [this message]
2002-10-08 21:28                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07  9:00                 ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-07 13:16                   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-07 14:33                     ` Guile CVS Build Problems (was: Re: What can I do to help? (conclusions)) Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-08 23:05                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-08 23:40                         ` Rob Browning
2002-10-08 23:13                       ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-09  7:56                         ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 15:30                           ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 17:25                             ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 17:37                               ` Andreas Rottmann
2002-10-09 20:18                                 ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 20:43                                   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 21:17                                     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-09 21:39                                       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-07 22:32                     ` What can I do to help? (conclusions) Rob Browning
2002-10-07 21:08                 ` Daniel Skarda
     [not found]                   ` <878z19rl8r.fsf@alice.rotty.yi.org>
2002-10-10 12:07                     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-04 13:14     ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 15:27       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 15:22     ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 16:02     ` Dale P. Smith
2002-10-04 18:58     ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-04 19:26       ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 19:48       ` Tom Lord
2002-10-06  8:46     ` Fast format (was Re: What can I do to help?) Daniel Skarda
2002-10-06 11:20       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-06 17:53         ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-03 12:00 ` Debian packages (Re: " Daniel Skarda
2002-10-04 12:33   ` Evan Prodromou
2002-10-04 15:43   ` Rob Browning
2002-10-04 18:46     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-05  5:51       ` Rob Browning
2002-10-05  8:55   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-06  8:31     ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-06  8:51       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-10-06 11:21         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-03 18:10 ` What can I do to help? Marius Vollmer
2002-10-03 21:32   ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-03 22:24     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-10-04 18:48       ` guile-debugger (was Re: What can I do to help?) Neil Jerram
2002-10-04 21:26         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2002-10-05  9:03           ` Neil Jerram
2002-10-06  8:51             ` Daniel Skarda
2002-10-12 13:36             ` Marius Vollmer

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