From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: file names embedded in .go Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:45:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87eii9ckpk.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <87tyr7yv25.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bpdfhtof.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> <87pr1u9x0x.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8739yqhr5e.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271836939 17419 80.91.229.12 (21 Apr 2010 08:02:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:02:19 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 21 10:02:17 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4Usv-00041j-Gd for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:02:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54267 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O4Ust-0002F2-CV for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O4Uie-00088t-14 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:51:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53443 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O4Uib-00087z-1t for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4UiZ-0001XJ-6U for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:51:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [95.237.68.253] (port=43809 helo=ambire.localdomain) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O4UiY-0000lz-UI for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:51:31 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O4Ucx-0002Qr-JZ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:45:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8739yqhr5e.fsf@newton.homeunix.net> (Jose A. Ortega Ruiz's message of "Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:15:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10274 Archived-At: () "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" () Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:15:25 +0200 It's an Emacs environment for Scheme similar to Slime: a repl and a bunch of utilities to edit, navigate and obtain information about the code. Among them, jumping to an identifier's definition: for that, i need guile to tell me where in the file system the identifier is bound. Geiser does not usually collect metadata on the elisp side, relying on the running guile to provide it. The richer that dynamic metadata is, the more functionality Geiser can provide. A bit more information is available at http://gitorious.org/geiser and links thereof (specially the README; no real documentation yet, i'm afraid). Thanks for the pointer. I'll take a look next time on the net. I think (designing out loud) programs like Geiser will have no problem if they use Emacs' features that support "virtually located" files. See =E2=80=98file-name-handler-alist=E2=80=99, for the most fundamental mec= hanism. Of course the inferior Guile needs to provide a clean syntax that doesn't conflict with other subsystems. There are basically two approaches: work on top of something else (best candidate: TRAMP), or sidestep all others. Programs that don't build on Emacs are another matter, but who in their right mind goes outside Emacs? ;-) thi