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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The progress of hacking guile and prolog
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:43:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bp66q8g5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 201010212223.23822.stefan.itampe@gmail.com

Hi Stefan,

Lots of stuff here, which is why I took the time to read it.  :-)

Stefan Israelsson Tampe <stefan.itampe@gmail.com> writes:

> 1. The theorem prover (leanCop) is a nice exercise 

[...]

> 2. Kanren is a nice way to program like with prolog,

Great that you’re mentioning them.  It looks like there’s a lot of
interesting work that’s been done around Kanren, such as the “toy” type
inference engine and, better, αleanTAP.  I don’t grok it all I’m glad
you’re looking at it from a Guile perspective.  :-)

> 4. The umatch hackity hack was turned into a much more hygienic creature.

Funny sentence.  :-)

> 5) Typechecking is for safty and optimisation, in the end it can be cool to 
> have and I'm working to understand all sides of this and have a pretty good 
> idea what is needed. It will be a goos testcase for the code.

Yes, if the type inference engine that comes with Kanren could somehow
be hooked into Guile’s compiler, so that it can emit type-mismatch
warnings or determine whether type-checks can be optimized away (which
would require changes in the VM), that’d be great.

What’s amazing is that Kanren + type-inference.scm weigh in at “only”
~3,500 SLOC.

> 6) I copied the  glil->assembly compiler and modded the code to spit out 
> c-code in stead of assembly. For functions which does not call other scheme
> functions except in tail call manner this should be quite fast to adapt. And
> of cause loops becomes wickedly fast when compiling this way. Wingo:s example 
> without consing tok 7ns for each loop on my machine.

Interesting.  Is it a sufficiently isolated change that you could point
us to?

Thanks,
Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-03 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21 20:23 The progress of hacking guile and prolog Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-03 23:43 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2010-11-04  2:40   ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-10 17:55     ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-11 19:10       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-11 16:26     ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-11 19:13       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-11 19:15       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-15 23:10     ` Typechecking I Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-20 11:46       ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-20 11:25     ` The progress of hacking guile and prolog Andy Wingo
2010-11-24  1:54       ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-24 16:45         ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-24 18:00         ` piper schemigan Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-24 20:18           ` Andreas Rottmann
2010-11-25 21:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-26 22:18             ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-28 22:30               ` Guile-SCSH Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-28 23:02                 ` Guile-SCSH Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-28 23:24                   ` Guile-SCSH Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2010-11-29 18:56                     ` Guile-SCSH Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-29 21:26                     ` http://gitorious.org/guile-scsh/guile-scsh Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-30 23:21                       ` Guile-Facade Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-25 21:26         ` The progress of hacking guile and prolog Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-26 16:41           ` Noah Lavine
2010-11-26 10:45         ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-20 11:26     ` Andy Wingo
2010-11-04 17:57   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-05 21:19   ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-19 23:11     ` GLIL->C compilation Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-19 23:20       ` Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2010-11-19 23:56         ` Ludovic Courtès
2010-11-20 12:18           ` Andy Wingo

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