From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 16:22:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87blue2kx8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87blugg7dt.fsf@pobox.com> <87a79y3lq3.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="10511"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Andy Wingo , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Mark H Weaver Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 18 16:22:33 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLT9E-0002VK-7h for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 16:22:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40806 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLT9D-00084Y-3B for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iLT8w-0007xm-IL for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:22:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iLT8w-0006BC-4n; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:22:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=39610 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iLT8v-0001Tk-Kg; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:22:13 -0400 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 27 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <87a79y3lq3.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 17 Oct 2019 21:06:49 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20113 Archived-At: Hi Mark, Mark H Weaver skribis: > RMS has not yet appointed me as a co-maintainer. To my knowledge, the > only thing he has done so far is to *ask* me if I wanted to be appointed > co-maintainer. I answered "yes", but I've not yet received any further > messages from him on this topic. I also note that I'm not listed as a > maintainer in the official list of maintainers. Thanks for clarifying, Mark. In the current context, I, like others here, find this action of RMS very problematic. Far from helping deescalate tensions, it has evidently poured oil onto the fire and moved the conflict to Guile, which until now was a safe harbor far away from the private GNU mailing lists. It has also complicated our relation, though I=E2=80=99m happy the discussi= on we=E2=80=99re having is helping avoid misunderstandings and misconceptions. Ludo=E2=80=99.