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From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
To: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>
Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de,  Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca>,
	 Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io>,
	 MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>,
	guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:32:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk2vyd29.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ep63BNANesrpirIKEAn3vg1k1ODr5d5RN7qp_O9x0gjrGM8EiMc5frYfQHMBeGwT7KwkL-C54rZhAhxai4RhbiSlRXG4JWubNNDpMXDLSYM=@lendvai.name> (Attila Lendvai's message of "Wed, 17 Jul 2024 16:29:06 +0000")

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Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name> writes:

> IOW, if you don't want changes in your dependencies, then just don't update them.

This does not work.

You often have to update dependencies for security reasons. Got a new
gnutls or openssl or openssh with new cyphers you need to have a working
program — will Guile 3 get updated to support them or will you be forced
to migrate to Guile 4 to keep your tool working?

Do you want to create tools that people have to restrict to internal
networks a decade from now (anyone else thinking of companies still
bound to Windows XP?)?

Or do you want Guile tools to build a reliable path into the future
where we can consistently build upon existing work and actually stand on
the shoulders of giants?

If so, we must avoid repeatedly breaking the giants’ knees.

Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.de

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-17 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-29  0:19 [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1 Richard Sent
2024-06-29  2:52 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Thompson, David
2024-06-29  7:37   ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2024-06-29  8:12     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29  8:33       ` Damien Mattei
2024-06-29  9:59         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29  9:07     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Addnondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 10:41     ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 18:12       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 18:18         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:27         ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 19:04           ` GRFI [was: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea] Matt Wette
2024-06-29 19:13             ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-02 19:42               ` Jason Hemann
2024-06-29 19:39             ` Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 21:53       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Philip McGrath
2024-06-29 22:41         ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30  7:12           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30  9:45             ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 14:34               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01  9:06                 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-01 10:42                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30  6:16         ` #lang header Lassi Kortela
2024-06-30  0:17     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Thompson, David
2024-07-17  2:25     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 10:01       ` Library namespaces (guile ...) and (srfi ...) Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 10:45       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 10:53         ` MSavoritias
2024-07-17 11:12           ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 15:44             ` Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 16:09               ` tomas
2024-07-17 16:29                 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-17 20:32                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2024-07-18  9:04                     ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-18 15:11                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 20:33           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 22:56             ` Greg Troxel
2024-07-19  8:46               ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20  9:34                 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 13:01                   ` [PATCH] " Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 13:30                     ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 14:52                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 15:24                         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:46                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:04                             ` Portable code Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:24                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:37                                 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:48                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26  9:21                                     ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:11                             ` Name of the standard library Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:26                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:48                                 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 18:42                                   ` Portable imports Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 19:18                                     ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 19:46                                       ` Encoding library names Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 20:35                                         ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21  5:55                                       ` Portable imports tomas
2024-07-20 19:23                                     ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:54                                 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:56                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26  9:38                                     ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:43                         ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 15:58                           ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21  7:15                         ` MSavoritias
2024-07-21  8:04                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 16:37                             ` Library names describe APIs Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 16:50                           ` Name of the standard library Ricardo Wurmus
2024-07-21 13:00                         ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 16:01                       ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:27                         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:55                           ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 12:16                     ` [PATCH] The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Attila Lendvai
2024-07-21 21:10                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-22 14:52                         ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 15:26                   ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-17 11:04         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:38   ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 19:02   ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Richard Sent
2024-06-29 23:51     ` Thompson, David
2024-06-30  7:23       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01  2:55   ` Maxim Cournoyer

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