From: Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>
Subject: Re: Text collation
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:37:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ac3m2joj.fsf@raven.defaultvalue.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87wt6rxy6z.fsf@laas.fr
ludovic.courtes@laas.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
> I don't think this is actually the case: there are currently 4
> shared libraries in the `srfi' directory, but none of them is
> documented in the manual and the C functions they export are not
> mentioned either (that's what I meant by "practically preclude":
> it's technically possible to use them but it's not documented).
Actually, in general, the SRFI scm_* functions are intended for public
use. If not, then all of the relevant scm_* functions would/should
have been named scm_i_*.
Also, you definitely can't judge by the presence or lack of
documentation. Guile's documentation has often taken a while to catch
up with the code.
(BTW, does documentation snarfing work right for C functions in
libraries outside libguile? If not, then that's just a bug.)
> I would expect it to be done on purpose: For instance, the contents
> of `libguile-srfi-srfi-1' changed noticeably as some functions were
> rewritten in C and this is not something we want users to be aware
> of.
Note that when Marius moved the SRFI-13 and SRFI-14 functions to
libguile, he still kept the C library for backward compatibility. I
believe this was specifically so that people who were already using
those functions wouldn't be affected.
> Yes, I'm open to that if we consider it a better option than having
> another shared lib.
>
> The issue, IMO, is that this is not very "scalable" either: we still
> end up adding one function call in `scm_i_init_guile ()' that
> systematically gets in the way.
I'm actually not sure which (of the discussed approaches) I think is
best. I suppose first we'd need to consider the extent to which we
want to move toward a more modular ice-9 (more modular core), and then
determine how we might want to implement that modularity.
> Right. What I had in mind was to have, say, `(dynamic-link)' (with
> no arguments) translate to `lt_dlopen (NULL)', so that we could
> access symbols contained within the executable. Now, I'm not sure
> this would work in all cases, for instance when the executable is
> not `guile' itself.
Well, if we wanted to take this approach, and if lt_dlopen(NULL)
wouldn't do what was intended, perhaps there is some other way to
accomplish the same thing (i.e. to make sure you get the current
libguile.so), but I don't know offhand.
--
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-19 9:23 Text collation Ludovic Courtès
2006-09-19 22:38 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-10-22 18:33 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-10-23 2:01 ` Rob Browning
2006-10-23 7:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-10-24 8:37 ` Rob Browning [this message]
2006-10-25 8:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-10-25 8:46 ` Rob Browning
2006-10-25 18:40 ` Neil Jerram
2006-10-25 19:55 ` Rob Browning
2006-10-26 8:47 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-11-09 7:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-11-09 17:43 ` Rob Browning
2006-11-10 13:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-11-11 15:17 ` Neil Jerram
2006-11-20 13:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-11-21 22:03 ` Neil Jerram
2006-11-22 13:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-10-25 18:43 ` Neil Jerram
2006-10-25 19:31 ` Rob Browning
2006-10-25 18:33 ` Neil Jerram
2006-10-26 8:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-11-29 23:08 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-11-30 15:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-02 21:56 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-04 9:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-05 0:20 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-05 18:42 ` Carl Witty
2006-12-05 20:41 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-05 22:29 ` Carl Witty
2006-12-05 0:38 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-02 22:02 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-10 12:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-11 22:32 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-12 8:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-12 20:04 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-13 9:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-31 17:10 ` Neil Jerram
2006-12-15 20:52 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-12 19:05 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-13 9:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-12 19:16 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-13 9:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-12 21:37 ` Kevin Ryde
2006-12-13 9:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-12-13 20:10 ` Kevin Ryde
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