From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add ',run' and ',!' Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:38:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87a9cgu2lt.fsf@pobox.com> References: <87fvyx4sqn.fsf@karetnikov.org> <87a9p5eigt.fsf@Kagami.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395603546 21593 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2014 19:39:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ian Price , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Hartwig Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 23 20:39:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoEj-0001Ay-2J for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:39:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33184 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoEi-0002P5-Lc for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50589) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoEa-0002Ok-A2 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoEV-0001E6-Hs for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:36537 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRoEV-0001E2-Do for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:38:59 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0254310530; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:38:59 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=Ngi7iGaqEPrQzNhvHE0k5Ee1YmM=; b=htjWJm p2DqzPKiJIe0lg49iO42c8t5SZazQbn7u1rd1JNDtTy4P+pxRPYNKOZLksuBF5xu mlQcLPrS2qFjtk29+kgFPEKIODN/VfYlFykEyRBqqtqTobl4PhHGy6t9U54LVF9z Q4kuiVCDtdKm7sXGi+A9qMUEJWEYNoEod+4zI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=H9/YzdngaYEK0LP/oYq5iqlE97RPZok3 xinoFZPKAjw+7JgHax2dtEJmfXZzgrdEncjDM3k6vRPi/M3g4m6XzzGv+e+dP539 EWx7799vu88w5B/rQGsyzNA5CqAvuaeQ9mJToZlgwdpcd0HNX++kqOs34NW5ZnZN fPzCtKrdt3s= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE95E1052F; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from badger (unknown [88.160.190.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E2981052E; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:38:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Daniel Hartwig's message of "Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:55:34 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: C676B422-B2C2-11E3-80DE-873F0E5B5709-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 208.72.237.25 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:16992 Archived-At: Hi, Following up after a loooong time -- On Fri 12 Apr 2013 01:55, Daniel Hartwig writes: > On 11 April 2013 13:37, Ian Price wrote: >> >>> So, what do you think [about ,run and ,!]? >> >> This is the sort of thing that belongs in a .guile rather than in >> guile IMO. >> > > Right, and since you can already do this with more control via the > posix interface, adding this 'shortcut' to the repl adds little in the > way of value. I'm not sure I agree. Anything a REPL command can do can also be done programmatically, so that's not really an argument against REPL commands. OTOH people find that the ability to shell out is useful -- almost all language shells have such a thing. I think such a feature could have a place in Guile proper. Andy -- http://wingolog.org/