From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Christopher Allan Webber Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Experimental JIT for Guile (???!) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 02:45:58 -0500 Message-ID: <87a8es1n7t.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87bmz91c9t.fsf@dustycloud.org> <1475035875.18187.50.camel@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475048799 24001 195.159.176.226 (28 Sep 2016 07:46:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 07:46:39 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 Cc: Atsuro Hoshino , guile-devel@gnu.org To: Nala Ginrut Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 28 09:46:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bp9ZW-00053d-3I for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:46:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56618 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bp9ZU-00031G-Io for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:46:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bp9ZF-000313-7q for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bp9ZB-0004n7-2y for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:46:12 -0400 Original-Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:46514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bp9ZA-0004m8-Up for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from oolong (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2BAC26721; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:45:59 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: <1475035875.18187.50.camel@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 50.116.34.160 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:18689 Archived-At: Oh great to hear this extra backstory! Atsuro, welcome to the Guile community... I'd love to see collaboration between you and Guile core! Nala Ginrut writes: > Well, there's interesting story behind it. > Few days ago this new JIT backend named Nash was introduced in ICFP2016 (scheme > workshop), I and Ludo are lecturers too. When I first saw the topic, I looked > back to Ludo and thought "oh you guys are making a new weapon secretly huh?" > I thought this work must be encouraged and helped by Ludo or Wingo or Mark, but > finally I realized that I was wrong, the authorAtsuro Hoshino was hacking JIT > backend for Guile all by himself. Ludo got surprised too. > I have to say, lone hero pattern is not recommended for a community project, but > anyway he did it bravely and the result seems good according to the paper. > After the meeting, I and Ludo tried to convince him to get involved into our > community to get more help and feedback. > > I CC him here, and it depends on him whether/when to introduce more. > > I think this project is just amazing, really! Thank you Hoshino! ;-) > > Best regards. > > On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 12:30 -0500, Christopher Allan Webber wrote: >> Earlier today, David Thompson pointed to this paper in #guix on >> freenode: >> >> https://github.com/8c6794b6/guile-tjit-documentation/raw/master/nash.pdf >> >> And here seems to be the source: >> >> https://github.com/8c6794b6/guile-tjit >> >> I'm not informed enough to judge this myself, but this seems like a >> reasonable start-of-implementation of the ideas expressed here: >> >> http://wingolog.org/archives/2015/11/03/two-paths-one-peak-a-view-from-below >> -on-high-performance-language-implementations >> >> It mentions hot loops and compiling to native code... that's about as >> much as I can tell myself about it being on track.But it seems pretty >> cool, especially for something shooting onto the radar seemingly out of >> nowhere! >> >> Anyone more informed have thoughts? :) >> - Chris >>