From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark H Weaver Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Officially require GNU Make to build Guile? (was Re: Bootstrap optimization) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:04:38 -0400 Message-ID: <87a7mwkm0e.fsf@netris.org> References: <87y3aiam5q.fsf@netris.org> <87tvl58zvd.fsf_-_@netris.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1540879492 11507 195.159.176.226 (30 Oct 2018 06:04:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:04:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: guile-devel To: Mikael Djurfeldt Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 30 07:04:48 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gHN8x-0002t9-JD for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:04:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51026 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHNB4-0003DA-1z for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58455) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHN9i-0002hU-SP for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:05:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHN9b-0004br-6H for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:05:32 -0400 Original-Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:33976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHN9Y-0004ZQ-Mj for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gHN9X-0002Rh-0k; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:05:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mikael Djurfeldt's message of "Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:33:01 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 64.112.178.59 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:19702 Archived-At: Hi Mikael, Mikael Djurfeldt writes: > But, as you concluded, Guile currently uses GNU Make specific > functionality. $(filter-out ...) in bootstrap/Makefile.am is such a > case and also the vpath and %-thingies in am/bootstrap.am. I guess you're right. > Probably, you should start out by making an inventory of the various > uses of GNU Make functionality and for each case evaluate how much > work would be required to make it standard. First then it is possible > to decide if it is worth to do it. > > However, note that applying my suggested patch would not really change > the situation much in this respect since that piece of functionality > already now depends on the GNU Make specific $ (filter-out ...), such > that when GNU Make specifics get handled, having applied my patch > doesn't really increase the amount of work in any way. It's a good point. Okay, I'm convinced. Please go ahead and push your patch to stable-2.2. Thanks for talking me through it. Regards, Mark