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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: "Andy Wingo" <wingo@pobox.com>, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 21:06:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a79y3lq3.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blugg7dt.fsf@pobox.com> (Andy Wingo's message of "Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:14:06 +0200")

Hello all,

I just realized that I made a mistake, and my mistake has caused people
to strongly condemn RMS for something that he did not actually do.

RMS has not yet appointed me as a co-maintainer.  To my knowledge, the
only thing he has done so far is to *ask* me if I wanted to be appointed
co-maintainer.  I answered "yes", but I've not yet received any further
messages from him on this topic.  I also note that I'm not listed as a
maintainer in the official list of maintainers.

I misinterpreted RMS's question as an offer, and that was my mistake.
The fault is mine, and mine alone.  RMS should not be blamed for it.

       Mark


Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> wrote:
> Still, it was with surprise that I woke up this morning to a request
> from Mark to re-join the Guile project on Savannah, saying that RMS had
> appointed Mark to become co-maintainer, and that Mark assented -- "given
> recent events".
>
> Now, Richard has no idea about Guile or how it works either technically
> or socially, and has not consulted with me as Guile maintainer, nor to
> my knowledge did he consult with Ludovic.

"Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> wrote:
> But now that I know that the truth is that RMS, as chief nuisance, put
> Mark back into this role without the consent of either active Guile
> co-maintainer, and without even telling them, I am extremely
> disappointed and I do not approve.

Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:
> I'm extremely saddened to see RMS pull this move.  It seriously
> undermines faith for maintainers of GNU projects that ther is any
> semblance of fair governance, and that the rug can't be pulled out from
> under their feet at any time.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-18  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-16 13:14 conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Andy Wingo
2019-10-16 14:11 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-16 15:33   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-16 16:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 17:05       ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-16 18:27     ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:27   ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 19:30   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18  9:44     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-16 18:12 ` Jean Louis
     [not found]   ` <CAGua6m3d_t2hd7P2ueTsPZytF7pNO7f8xptBWofPw9UvyYWDaw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-16 21:32     ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2019-10-16 21:56   ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-10-16 22:05     ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-10-18  3:16       ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18  3:17     ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18 10:37       ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-10-16 19:21 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-16 21:03 ` Linus Björnstam
2019-10-17  0:18 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-17  1:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-17  7:07   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-10-18  7:24     ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-19  7:51       ` Guile and Mes [WAS: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-10-19  8:56         ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 11:20     ` conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:14       ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-18 13:33         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:49           ` Thompson, David
2019-10-17  1:40 ` Mike Gran
2019-10-17  2:11 ` Neil Van Dyke
2019-10-17 18:11 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18  9:26   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-19  4:03     ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18  1:06 ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2019-10-18  6:31   ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-18  9:20   ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 14:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-19 22:55 ` Taylan Kammer
2019-10-20  3:08   ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-20  3:54     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-20 19:12     ` Taylan Kammer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-10-18 11:29 Todor Kondić
2019-10-18 15:09 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18 11:45 Mark H Weaver

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