From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Browning Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: AARRRRGGH! Die Libtool, die! Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:14:50 -0600 Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <878ywd5x4l.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> References: <200302151436.h1FEacTL013547@smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl> <87smupi86u.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <15950.54058.520676.489870@blauw.xs4all.nl> <200302160056.QAA15802@morrowfield.regexps.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045588715 30651 80.91.224.249 (18 Feb 2003 17:18:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hanwen@cs.uu.nl Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18lBMS-0007n5-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:16:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lBN3-0007fQ-04 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:17:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lBMn-0007et-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:17:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lBMm-0007dm-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:17:12 -0500 Original-Received: from dsl093-098-016.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.93.98.16] helo=defaultvalue.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18lBKV-00074q-00 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:14:52 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.i.defaultvalue.org (raven.i.defaultvalue.org [192.168.1.7]) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D097B61C; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:14:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by raven.i.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE2C277A15; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:14:50 -0600 (CST) Original-To: Tom Lord In-Reply-To: <200302160056.QAA15802@morrowfield.regexps.com> (Tom Lord's message of "Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:56:12 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) Original-cc: guile-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1952 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.devel:1952 Tom Lord writes: > Both perl and python are not stable. `sh' hasn't changed much in a > decade and probably won't for another decade if ever. `sh' is more > than adequate for the job. If you must reach for something more, > especially on this list, for gosh sakes, pick something rooted in > stable standards: reach for SCSH, you traitors. If SCSH (or even Guile) really is comparable in portability to Perl, and if we were not concerned with having a large pool of potential contributors (and we might not be), and if we don't think that the size of the existing base of systems with the language in question already installed is relevant, then of course I'd rather use Scheme. My initial feeling was that at least one of the items above was probably false, but if not, then that's great. With respect to sh. I've seen what large "portable sh" programs look like, and I've worked a bit on them. As a result, I'd have very little interest in the project if it were written in sh. Other than that, I agree with much of the rest of what you've said. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org, @linuxdevel.com, and @debian.org Previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 _______________________________________________ Guile-devel mailing list Guile-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-devel