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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com>
Cc: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: wip-threads-and-fork
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:57:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vjskqk7.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPjoZod9GKSppj4a2236p+vVCRpXT1+YCkPp=uZOcVHXgTYbAQ@mail.gmail.com> (Nala Ginrut's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:00:12 +0800")

Hello :)

On Fri 24 Feb 2012 04:00, Nala Ginrut <nalaginrut@gmail.com> writes:

> I think I could use pipes to handle some sub-process rather than do it
> with fork manually. But I must create a daemon, it can't avoid to use
> fork, will this circumstance cause problems if I use threads after it?

Hummm.  Very good question.  I started to answer this, but ended up
committing the hack I mailed before, then found this reply now.

Basically, if you try to daemonize with fork, you would need to do it
very early, before your program makes any threads.  In master, Guile now
enforces that condition.

Note that the first time your program calls `sigaction', Guile spawns a
thread to handle signals.  You'd need to fork before installing signal
handlers.

Another thing to think about is libgc.  In the "master" branch, libgc
itself can spawn threads -- for example, a thread for doing parallel
marking.

There is a tension here between making things work, and making them
correct.  It is possible to get fork + threads mostly working on glibc
platforms -- for example, we could restart signal-handling and finalizer
threads in primitive-fork.  But it is not possible to make the use of
`primitive-fork' correct, in general, in the presence of threads.

Cheers,

Andy
-- 
http://wingolog.org/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-24 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-08 22:10 wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-22 21:40 ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-23 15:05   ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-23 15:49     ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-23 16:13       ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-24  3:00         ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-24 10:21           ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-24 14:08             ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-24 14:47               ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-24 15:25                 ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-26 22:03             ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-02-27  9:44               ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-01 19:40                 ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-02-24 18:57           ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2012-02-25  2:21             ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-25  2:30               ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-25 18:01                 ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-02-26  2:35                   ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-02-26 22:00     ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-02-27  9:39       ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-01 19:35         ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-03-03 16:32           ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-03 21:20             ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-03-04 11:38               ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-21 21:26                 ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-03-22  2:48                   ` wip-threads-and-fork Nala Ginrut
2012-03-23  9:40                   ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-27 15:54                     ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2012-04-06 18:30                       ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-04-07 22:54                         ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès
2013-01-17 11:41                           ` wip-threads-and-fork Andy Wingo
2012-03-01 19:32 ` wip-threads-and-fork Ludovic Courtès

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