From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: goops - accessors, methods and generics Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:15:45 +0100 Message-ID: <878v60d372.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20130221195139.59f41d13@capac> <20130222201110.0a9e715c@capac> <20130305203027.184e7a66@capac> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362579374 9098 80.91.229.3 (6 Mar 2013 14:16:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:16:14 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 06 15:16:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF90-0004rS-Ky for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46088 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF8e-0005HU-Ua for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:16:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF8Y-0005FO-0W for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:16:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF8T-0000WA-8w for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF8T-0000W4-1a for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:16:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UDF8k-0004et-JZ for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:18 +0100 Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:18 +0100 Original-Received: from ludo by reverse-83.fdn.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: reverse-83.fdn.fr X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 16 =?utf-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu User-Agent: Gnus/5.130005 (Ma Gnus v0.5) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dYVH1b0yZfv/wcE75SzgVmUUAaY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:15875 Archived-At: David Pirotte skribis: > if at least guile designers and goops implementors would have provided a 'switch' > so that we could ask that any and all goops related stuff being in a single name > space available 'anywhere' at all time [such as guile core functionality is], it > would be great, but reading you, it sounds it is more like a religion problem: not > much we can do when it comes to that. One problem with GOOPS is that it changes Guile’s behavior globally, which is not always desirable. It also introduces run-time and memory overhead here and there. For instance, “guile -c '(use-modules (oop goops))'” executes in ~70 ms on my machine, vs. ~25 ms for “guile -c 1”. My 2¢, Ludo’.