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From: Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>
To: Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>,
	Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add atomic-box-update! function to (ice-9 atomic)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:30:47 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rbktrmg.fsf@trop.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7289b28b-d9d5-450e-baea-a51ef9ce61c2@app.fastmail.com>

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On 2023-06-22 17:42, Philip McGrath wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 5:02 AM, Andrew Tropin wrote:
>> On 2023-06-22 01:21, Philip McGrath wrote:
>>>
>>> In any case, the current documentation for
>>> atomic-box-compare-and-swap! is clear that the comparison is eq?: it
>>> just means that, when the behavior of eq? is unreliable, so is the
>>> behavior of atomic-box-compare-and-swap!.
>>
>> Good.  Than implementation of atomic-box-update! looks correct to me.
>> Any thoughts on including it in (ice-9 atomic)?
>>
>>>
>>> Tangentially, does atomic-box-compare-and-swap! handle spurious
>>> failures on architectures like ARM, or does it expose machine
>>> semantics to the programmer? Maybe that's covered by details of the
>>> C11 memory model, but I don't think "sequential consistency" alone is
>>> enough to answer the question.
>>>
>
> I think your implementation is correct. If
> atomic-box-compare-and-swap! does not handle spurious failures, I
> think your implementation is still correct, but a more efficient
> implementation could retry without an extra call to the update
> procedure.

How? If value was updated you need to recalculate new value.

>
> Someone with a better sense of Guile performance might have a view
> about whether `apply` is likely to be expensive: alternatively, the
> update procedure could be restricted to a single argument, or
> `case-lambda` could provide a specialized entry-point.

Original implementation was a single argument, but I thought that
variable number of arguments will be more convinient.

-- 
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-13  3:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-19 12:20 [PATCH] Add atomic-box-update! function to (ice-9 atomic) Andrew Tropin
2023-06-21  9:06 ` Jean Abou Samra
2023-06-21  9:06   ` Jean Abou Samra
2023-06-21 16:46     ` Andrew Tropin
2023-06-21 16:54       ` Jean Abou Samra
2023-06-22  3:59         ` Andrew Tropin
2023-06-22  5:21           ` Philip McGrath
2023-06-22  9:02             ` Andrew Tropin
2023-06-22 21:42               ` Philip McGrath
2023-07-13  3:30                 ` Andrew Tropin [this message]
2023-08-22 10:51 ` Andrew Tropin
2023-08-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v2] " Andrew Tropin
2023-08-22 17:51   ` Maxime Devos
2023-08-24 16:19     ` Andrew Tropin
2023-08-24 15:38 ` [PATCH v3] " Andrew Tropin
2023-09-20  8:17 ` [PATCH v4] " Andrew Tropin

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