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From: Kevin Ryde <user42@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: doco scm_remember_upto_1
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:07:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877k7snrg5.fsf@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87isrpjx0a.fsf@zagadka.ping.de

Marius Vollmer <mvo@zagadka.de> writes:
>
>     But this is not the case, a GC will only run when all threads are
>     in a safe place and have been stopped.

Right, yep.  I reworded it in a more direct sense as follows, dropping
the "it might be thought" business, which was only really me getting
wrong ideas.

   In a multi-threaded program, the rule is the same.  As far as a
   given thread is concerned, a garbage collect still only occurs
   within a memory allocation function, not at an arbitrary time.
   (Guile waits for all threads to reach a memory function, and holds
   them there while the collector runs.)

>     But when in doubt, be
>     conservative: include the call to scm_remember_upto_here_1 when
>     you are not sure that it is safe to leave it out.

I think I'd rather see something unambiguous said about when a
remember must be used, instead of talking about being unsure.  I tried
to reword a little to emphasise it's memory activity which provokes a
gc.

>     A call to
>     scm_remember_1 will cost at most as much as a call to an empty
>     function.

Or less, if the asm block approach is right, or if storing to a global
"volatile" variable would similarly be right.  :-)

> Is that important?  A note that says that the non-varargs functions
> might be more efficient should suffice, no?

I'm only thinking to encourage the best way.  I suppose the cost is
always going to be small compared to real work done, it's just a case
of not wanting to go along an inferior path.

In any event, I checked in the new section.


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-11 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-21 23:15 doco scm_remember_upto_1 Kevin Ryde
2003-05-22  7:07 ` Rob Browning
2003-05-22  9:42   ` Marius Vollmer
2003-05-22 15:21     ` Rob Browning
2003-05-24  1:19       ` Kevin Ryde
2003-05-30  0:04         ` Kevin Ryde
2003-06-01 21:41           ` Marius Vollmer
2003-06-11 23:07             ` Kevin Ryde [this message]
2003-06-18 23:36               ` Marius Vollmer
2003-06-21 23:02                 ` Kevin Ryde
2003-07-27 14:49                   ` Marius Vollmer
2003-05-30 13:26       ` Marius Vollmer

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