From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: gnu in summer-of-code: more projects needed Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:20:18 +0200 Message-ID: <877hb9g1d9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tyee79at.fsf@olor.terpri.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301952052 15233 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2011 21:20:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 21:20:52 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 04 23:20:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6rCa-00016o-97 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6rCZ-00021j-Jv for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:20:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54004 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6rCO-00020g-4C for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:20:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6rCM-0007q2-Fz for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:20:35 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:46275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6rCM-0007pb-1W for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:20:34 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6rCJ-0000xG-9v for guile-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:20:31 +0200 Original-Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:20:31 +0200 Original-Received: from ludo by reverse-83.fdn.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:20:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: reverse-83.fdn.fr X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 15 Germinal an 219 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu User-Agent: Gnus/5.110013 (No Gnus v0.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w3Qo5xBZ1rSWEtEqFySueTIlXf8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:12155 Archived-At: Saluton Brian, BT Templeton writes: > I'd like to continue my work on the Emacs Lisp compiler. Would be great! > Some areas that could use improvement: > > * Implement Emacs-compatible lexical binding support In what way is the current elisp implementation in Guile not Emacs-compatible? > * Many Elisp subrs are not implemented in Guile-Elisp; some don't make > sense outside of Emacs, but the rest should be provided. I wrote > simple versions of many subrs in Elisp (using guile-ref, etc.), but > only just enough for subr.el to load more or less correctly. > > * A more comprehensive testing framework would be nice. For example, > I'd like to be able to run Elisp tests in both Guile and Emacs. > > * "Big variables," as proposed in > , would > simplify the implementation, and would also be useful if anyone wants > to implement support for other Lisp-2 dialects in the future. > > * Nil needs to be a list, a boolean, *and* a symbol, not just a list > and a boolean. > > * Guile-Elisp needs to support aliases and buffer-local variables. > > * Guile-Elisp could be a bit faster (Emacs is still faster for the > Gabriel benchmarks), though I assume Guile will do better with code > that uses lexical binding. This all sounds useful, but I was hoping for something that would get the project closer to Emacs integration. Do you think anything can realistically be done in that respect, or is the above already enough work? If the latter, would you be around after the summer to work on Emacs integration? :-) Thanks, Ludo’.