From: Olivier Dion <olivier.dion@polymtl.ca>
To: Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io>,
MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>,
guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:44:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cdk10s6.fsf@laura> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ca709eb-5d14-4ce7-a27e-3b7367bde44d@lassi.io>
On Wed, 17 Jul 2024, Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io> wrote:
>> I mean deprecation doesn't mean it has to be removed immediately.
>>
>> There will be some time before it is actually removed. We can even push
>> it to Guile 4.
>>
>> Given a long timeline i doubt older programs would be advised to be used
>> or even work with recent guile. Given the rest of the cleaning
>> discussion and any other breaking changes that is.
>
> Arne's wisdom still holds. "Breaking" is bad, and "cleaning" does not
> guarantee keeping clean.
>
> If the (guile ...) names are adopted, I suggest you keep the existing
> (ice-9 ...) libraries indefinitely but no longer advertise them in the
> manual.
I concur. We can keep ice-9 indefinitely for backward support but also
because it is a piece of Guile history. Even when Guile 4 is out, I
think ice-9 should be kept to ease transition from 3 to 4. At the same
time, major version bumping also mean API breakage .. so it might be a
good opportunity.
However, if a (guile ...) hierarchy is introduced, all mentions to
ice-9, except the historical note, ought to be removed from the manual.
[...]
--
Olivier Dion
oldiob.ca
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-29 0:19 [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1 Richard Sent
2024-06-29 2:52 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Thompson, David
2024-06-29 7:37 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2024-06-29 8:12 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 8:33 ` Damien Mattei
2024-06-29 9:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 9:07 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Addnondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 10:41 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 18:12 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 18:18 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:27 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 19:04 ` GRFI [was: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea] Matt Wette
2024-06-29 19:13 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-02 19:42 ` Jason Hemann
2024-06-29 19:39 ` Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 21:53 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Philip McGrath
2024-06-29 22:41 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 7:12 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30 9:45 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 14:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01 9:06 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-01 10:42 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30 6:16 ` #lang header Lassi Kortela
2024-06-30 0:17 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Thompson, David
2024-07-17 2:25 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 10:01 ` Library namespaces (guile ...) and (srfi ...) Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 10:45 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 10:53 ` MSavoritias
2024-07-17 11:12 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 15:44 ` Olivier Dion [this message]
2024-07-17 16:09 ` tomas
2024-07-17 16:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-17 20:32 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 9:04 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-18 15:11 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 20:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 22:56 ` Greg Troxel
2024-07-19 8:46 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 9:34 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 13:01 ` [PATCH] " Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 13:30 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 14:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 15:24 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:46 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:04 ` Portable code Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:24 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:37 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:48 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 9:21 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:11 ` Name of the standard library Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:48 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 18:42 ` Portable imports Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 19:18 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 19:46 ` Encoding library names Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 20:35 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 5:55 ` Portable imports tomas
2024-07-20 19:23 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:54 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:56 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 9:38 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:43 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 15:58 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 7:15 ` MSavoritias
2024-07-21 8:04 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 16:37 ` Library names describe APIs Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 16:50 ` Name of the standard library Ricardo Wurmus
2024-07-21 13:00 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 16:01 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:27 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:55 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 12:16 ` [PATCH] The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Attila Lendvai
2024-07-21 21:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-22 14:52 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 15:26 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-17 11:04 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:38 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 19:02 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Richard Sent
2024-06-29 23:51 ` Thompson, David
2024-06-30 7:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01 2:55 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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