From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: bdw-gc includes in libguile.h Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:11:17 +0200 Message-ID: <874o6ovbsa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87hbardqgw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301238699 28888 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2011 15:11:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 27 17:11:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3rco-0004aE-QX for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:11:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50427 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3rcn-0006n1-TO for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50105 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3rch-0006mv-JB for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3rcd-0007TT-FF for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from solo.fdn.fr ([80.67.169.19]:52305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3rcd-0007TK-98 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:11:19 -0400 Original-Received: from nixey (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: lcourtes) by smtp.fdn.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35C8145698; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:11:18 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 7 Germinal an 219 de la =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Andy Wingo's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:44:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110013 (No Gnus v0.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 80.67.169.19 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:12014 Archived-At: Hello! Andy Wingo writes: > On Fri 25 Mar 2011 19:06, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Andy Wingo writes: [...] >>> I think that in 2.2 we should not expose libgc interfaces in libguile, >> >> That would be great, but then =E2=80=98scm_cell=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98SCM_N= EWSMOB=E2=80=99, etc. would >> need to do a function call, which we don=E2=80=99t want. Even if we did= want >> it, the change would break the ABI. > > I realize this :) That's why I am proposing it for 2.2, which will > (presumably) be ABI-incompatible. OK. > I don't think inlining NEWSMOB et al actually buys us anything worth > buying, so to speak. Yes, I agree. Internally we should still inline scm_cell & co., though; that can be done without exposing in public headers I guess. (Actually, we should inline scm_cons, too, internally.) >> A meta-comment: can we agree to take more time to discuss this sort of >> things? I=E2=80=99ll try to be responsive, and the earth won=E2=80=99t = stop spinning if >> the fix waits a couple of days. ;-) > > Sure. Sorry for the precipitous action. That said, this bug has been > open since September: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?32436 Oh indeed, I hadn=E2=80=99t realized there=E2=80=99s a connection; still... Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.