From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Implement SRFI-111 Boxes Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:57:20 +0100 Message-ID: <874n4tlka7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a9elkjmo.fsf@netris.org> <87txctzpjy.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390561221 27262 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2014 11:00:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:00:21 +0000 (UTC) To: guile-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 24 12:00:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUt-0006yU-7k for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:00:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45644 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUs-0006RS-S6 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:00:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41577) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUg-0006Mf-D9 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUZ-0007xZ-4E for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUY-0007xR-Tx for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6eUU-0006li-LN for guile-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:00:02 +0100 Original-Received: from pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr ([193.50.110.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:00:02 +0100 Original-Received: from ludo by pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:00:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 5 =?utf-8?Q?Pluvi=C3=B4se?= an 222 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BpdTTicgPB5d146n8ZbDXXGQg0I= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:16842 Archived-At: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich "Bayırlı/Kammer") skribis: > Has it been considered to coalesce the box type with Guile's "variable" > type? I can see two concrete differences: > > * External representation (*not* specified by SRFI-111) > > * Variables can be "unbound" (empty), boxes can't > > So we could get away with making the box API consist of aliases to a > subset of the variable API and still conform to SRFI-111. Even though both types are box-like, they represent conceptually different things, so I think it’s better to keep them disjoint. Ludo’.