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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com>
Cc: guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Compiler memory consumption
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:52:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87376063bu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a808mzsy.fsf@igalia.com> (Andy Wingo's message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:16:13 +0100")

Hello,

Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com> skribis:

> On Wed 25 Oct 2017 19:42, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> In short, compiling the top-level thunk is what’s killing us, because
>> the space and time complexity is proportional to the number of labels
>> therein.
>>
>> Also, our 16K line python.scm file translates into 428K labels, which
>> during slot allocation translates into a dozen of 428K-element intmaps
>> and intsets.  So the compilation cost is space per source line of code
>> is high.
>>
>> Andy, what are your thoughts?
>
> I think that probably these 428K labels are partitioned into a number of
> functions.  It is true that the biggest one takes the most time.  Should
> we attempt to speed this up, or should we try harder to simplify this
> graph even at low optimization levels (e.g. "simplify" pass), or should
> we avoid CSE and periodically split liveness ranges, or should we use a
> different register allocation strategy on large functions?

The space taken by the data structures used to represent functions and
live variables is huge: we’re at 1+ GiB heap after the
‘compute-live-variables’ call for the big top-level function (compiling
the 4K subsequent functions, which are small, does not increase heap
size and is very fast).  I think it’s primarily a space complexity
issue.

Ideally memory consumption would not be proportional to the number of
definitions in a file (top-level statements).  Periodically splitting
liveness ranges could probably help avoid this pathological behavior: it
would place an upper bound on memory consumption.

Hopefully this wouldn’t have any noticeable impact on the generated
code, definitely not for top-level functions like that one.

WDYT?

I’m not sure what it takes to implement this splitting, though!

> Or would a transversal solution like a JIT actually be the solution?
> Or does the stack marking show the same pessimal behavior as the weak
> table, in that it's a large object behind a mark function?

My impression is that these are secondary issues.

Thanks for your feedback!

Ludo’.



      reply	other threads:[~2017-10-30 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-16 16:19 Compiler memory consumption Ludovic Courtès
2017-05-16 20:14 ` Andy Wingo
2017-05-16 20:45   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-12  9:06   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-17 13:56     ` Weak tables harmful to GC? Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-09 13:10       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-10-22  1:52       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-22  2:20         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-10-23  0:16           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-24 15:02             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-24 15:32             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-25  6:38               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-26  7:03               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-26  8:35                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-26 16:52                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-27  5:28                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-28  9:56                       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-30 12:35                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-30 14:48                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-30 17:20                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-30 22:18                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-30 17:29                           ` bug#19180: " Andy Wingo
2017-10-30 23:13                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-31  8:25                               ` Andy Wingo
2017-10-31 16:56                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-26 17:17                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-24 22:45             ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-10-24 22:58               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-25  0:50                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-10-25 17:11                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-25 17:42     ` Compiler memory consumption Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-30 15:16       ` Andy Wingo
2017-10-30 15:52         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]

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