From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Maintenance and future of Guile Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:20:55 +0100 Message-ID: <8735muxj7c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <979585e9-c198-69f3-928f-7c00cda5d705@abou-samra.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8930"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: wingo@pobox.com, arne_bab@web.de, Jonas Hahnfeld , maximedevos@telenet.be, guile-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Abou Samra Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 11:21:36 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRPj-00028Q-E6 for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:21:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51112 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRPh-0004sT-Mv for guile-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:21:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRPB-0004OO-JF for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=43628 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRP8-0005TD-Ax; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:20:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=6Kz3fGfk2jEGZcngIg/pYJjtnycIZ2KAjvcfaKWgtHo=; b=TxmmiIhytWenqgBoVcjs JhgLs0H+KP1j/PkXIjFHnPm9+CbjyB96lKwQ4SHd4brt5PrYxaE+T9Rzz+ZA3BZmBKjeHEUTuGvdO Jqyz47LZ3Mxd0IvbBR3ZNP3hUivjDqImDIjJXQ3D8ygJ6cG31rp9WaK6NEQBJLDqngSS3rL9lSvCb OkFblE+3ng7IVNOEJIHokwyNEj0OcoW/rxcUaQsX3pSHKc297NHwfD98fLsRxua0+Ndck9pBqfkcl M61dIZ15zmcSaRLsLdsaoy2qqS1IjsXgOmBrZzwY2we+pveGUA7K5LpGqI3KguoNdI8P1j0NWtQcY cb3Q2yAwor1a6g==; Original-Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201]:53732 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxRP8-0001mt-AC; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:20:58 -0500 X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 25 Frimaire an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <979585e9-c198-69f3-928f-7c00cda5d705@abou-samra.fr> (Jean Abou Samra's message of "Mon, 13 Dec 2021 23:18:44 +0100") X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:21003 Archived-At: Hello Guilers, Jean Abou Samra skribis: > I see a number of similar cases on the mailing list. > > I understand the cost of reviewing and I know that > nobody is entitled to anything in the free software > world. However, I would like to voice the concern that > Guile's maintenance is not scaling, and the project > cannot attract new contributors if patches do not > make it to the main branch. If the current maintainers > need to drop their activity, it would be nice if > they could share maintainership so that at least > bug fixes can be applied. I agree and I apologize for the unpleasant situation: it=E2=80=99s clear th= at I haven=E2=80=99t been up to the task for several years already. I=E2=80=99l= l discuss with Andy how I can formally leave the seat to someone with more energy, whom I=E2=80=99ll be happy to help learn practices and conventions. If someone is interested, please get in touch with us! While Andy focuses on major improvements to the compiler and VM with a long-term vision, I think it would be great to also have people on the maintainer team focusing on more day-to-day operations: incremental improvements, bug fixes, etc. I think we=E2=80=99re lucky that there=E2=80= =99ve been a number of talented contributors chiming in over the last couple of years; let=E2=80=99s take advantage of this, at last! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.