From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
To: Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io>
Cc: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>,
Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>,
Greg Troxel <gdt@lexort.com>,
MSavoritias <email@msavoritias.me>,
"guile-devel@gnu.org" <guile-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Name of the standard library
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 16:52:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734o4kte6.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15398dda-cb3e-4195-b2f8-263a59a73c68@lassi.io> (Lassi Kortela's message of "Sat, 20 Jul 2024 16:30:07 +0300")
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Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io> writes:
>> It would be easy to state in more places "the standard library of guile
>> is called ice-9 (see [history])".
>
> With no disrespect intended -- I understand it's a joke that was funny
> at one time -- "the standard library of Guile is called ice-9" sounds
> like "the unit of mass is called footballs". If so, why would a smart
> newbie learn more?
I did.
Did you not?
(I know that this is a paradoxical question; I’m pointing to it, because
*we actually do not know*, so maybe we should refrain from discussing
the hypothetical smart newbie when all of us who are here would by
definition not match that description)
I actually liked that name — and still like it. Keep in mind that being
professional quality doesn’t require being teflon-proof naming. Python
includes `import this` and `import antigravity`. Because exposing ones
humanity isn’t a problem.
But on the topic of (guile ...) as name: I’m not sure whether (guile
...) is better. Because what then is (language ...)? What are (oop ...)
(sxml ...) and (web ...)?
Should all of these move into (guile ...)? Or should we provide the
modules without prefix? What should then actually move into (guile ...)?
I didn’t think of these before, because I didn’t start by looking at
existing code tree. Which was a mistake. These make it more dubious for
me whether a (guile ...) prefix is a good idea at all. Just aliasing
ice-9 would give the false impression that (web ...) and (language ...)
aren’t guile.
Best wishes,
Arne
--
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein,
ohne es zu merken.
draketo.de
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-29 0:19 [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1 Richard Sent
2024-06-29 2:52 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Thompson, David
2024-06-29 7:37 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2024-06-29 8:12 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 8:33 ` Damien Mattei
2024-06-29 9:59 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 9:07 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Addnondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 10:41 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 18:12 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 18:18 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:27 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 19:04 ` GRFI [was: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea] Matt Wette
2024-06-29 19:13 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-02 19:42 ` Jason Hemann
2024-06-29 19:39 ` Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 21:53 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Philip McGrath
2024-06-29 22:41 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 7:12 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30 9:45 ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 14:34 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01 9:06 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-01 10:42 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30 6:16 ` #lang header Lassi Kortela
2024-06-30 0:17 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Thompson, David
2024-07-17 2:25 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 10:01 ` Library namespaces (guile ...) and (srfi ...) Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 10:45 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 10:53 ` MSavoritias
2024-07-17 11:12 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 15:44 ` Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 16:09 ` tomas
2024-07-17 16:29 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-17 20:32 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 9:04 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-18 15:11 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 20:33 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 22:56 ` Greg Troxel
2024-07-19 8:46 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 9:34 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 13:01 ` [PATCH] " Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 13:30 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 14:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2024-07-20 15:24 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:46 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:04 ` Portable code Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:24 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:37 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:48 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 9:21 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:11 ` Name of the standard library Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:26 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:48 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 18:42 ` Portable imports Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 19:18 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 19:46 ` Encoding library names Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 20:35 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 5:55 ` Portable imports tomas
2024-07-20 19:23 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:54 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:56 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 9:38 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:43 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 15:58 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 7:15 ` MSavoritias
2024-07-21 8:04 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 16:37 ` Library names describe APIs Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 16:50 ` Name of the standard library Ricardo Wurmus
2024-07-21 13:00 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 16:01 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:27 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:55 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 12:16 ` [PATCH] The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Attila Lendvai
2024-07-21 21:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-22 14:52 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 15:26 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-17 11:04 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:38 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 19:02 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Richard Sent
2024-06-29 23:51 ` Thompson, David
2024-06-30 7:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01 2:55 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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