From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 19:10:42 +0300 Message-ID: <83imooekn1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87blugg7dt.fsf@pobox.com> <87blugemdk.fsf@dustycloud.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="45513"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: wingo@pobox.com, guile-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Lemmer Webber Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 16 18:12:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iKluN-000BhN-AV for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:12:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45226 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKluK-0004qC-SG for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:12:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iKlt8-0003qm-WC for guile-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iKlt7-0004Zy-Us; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2480 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iKlt6-0008VH-Re; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:11:01 -0400 In-reply-to: <87blugemdk.fsf@dustycloud.org> (message from Christopher Lemmer Webber on Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:33:11 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20075 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Lemmer Webber > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:33:11 -0400 > Cc: Andy Wingo > > I'm extremely saddened to see RMS pull this move. It seriously > undermines faith for maintainers of GNU projects that ther is any > semblance of fair governance, and that the rug can't be pulled out from > under their feet at any time. To reach such conclusions, we'd need to hear a first-hand report of what exactly did RMS and Mark say in their (presumed) off-list exchange. No such first-hand report was posted; Mark just said that he decided to step back.