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From: Jason Hemann <jason.hemann@gmail.com>
To: guile-devel@gnu.org, Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io>
Subject: Re: GRFI [was: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea]
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:42:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80bbaf88-feaa-4d25-be7a-9650e3ea52fc@Spark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <557ebecd-8ea1-4717-a3a3-bf08b1114e78@lassi.io>

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Was the GRFI proposal intended to work around the difficulties posed by a hard-fork of Guile (a la Python 2 vs. 3)? [as discussed in prior thread]

It seems to me that major breaking changes bring lots of downside, and I’m not sure the immediate benefits would outweigh them.

I think of the SRFI process as soft-standardization across different implementations, though. So, I’m not sure I follow. Absent some major language version split,  what the GRFI process would be _for_?

Best,

[PS: You—yes you—should consider writing up and submitting a paper to the upcoming Scheme Workshop https://icfp24.sigplan.org/home/scheme-2024 (July 18 deadline)]

Jason Hemann
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Seton Hall University
On Jun 29, 2024 at 15:14 -0400, Lassi Kortela <lassi@lassi.io>, wrote:
> > How about a GRFI site to deal with proposals to Guile?
>
> I advise against starting a GRFI unless you can find plausible ways to
> solve the known problems with the SRFI process. In case you can solve
> these difficult problems which many smart people have failed to solve,
> perhaps the new process could be somehow merged with SRFI itself.
>
> Empirically, it seems that most schemers will not watch many inboxes.
> Each separate design process will add its own inbox with subtly
> different rules and customs. That's non-trivial cognitive load.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-02 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-29  0:19 [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1 Richard Sent
2024-06-29  2:52 ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Thompson, David
2024-06-29  7:37   ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2024-06-29  8:12     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29  8:33       ` Damien Mattei
2024-06-29  9:59         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29  9:07     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Addnondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 10:41     ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 18:12       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-29 18:18         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:27         ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-29 19:04           ` GRFI [was: The Guile junk drawer and a C plea] Matt Wette
2024-06-29 19:13             ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-02 19:42               ` Jason Hemann [this message]
2024-06-29 19:39             ` Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 21:53       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Philip McGrath
2024-06-29 22:41         ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30  7:12           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30  9:45             ` Maxime Devos
2024-06-30 14:34               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01  9:06                 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-01 10:42                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-06-30  6:16         ` #lang header Lassi Kortela
2024-06-30  0:17     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Thompson, David
2024-07-17  2:25     ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 10:01       ` Library namespaces (guile ...) and (srfi ...) Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 10:45       ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 10:53         ` MSavoritias
2024-07-17 11:12           ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-17 15:44             ` Olivier Dion
2024-07-17 16:09               ` tomas
2024-07-17 16:29                 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-17 20:32                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18  9:04                     ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-18 15:11                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-17 20:33           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-18 22:56             ` Greg Troxel
2024-07-19  8:46               ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20  9:34                 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 13:01                   ` [PATCH] " Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 13:30                     ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 14:52                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 15:24                         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:46                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:04                             ` Portable code Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:24                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:37                                 ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:48                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26  9:21                                     ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:11                             ` Name of the standard library Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:26                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-20 16:48                                 ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 18:42                                   ` Portable imports Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 19:18                                     ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 19:46                                       ` Encoding library names Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 20:35                                         ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21  5:55                                       ` Portable imports tomas
2024-07-20 19:23                                     ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:54                                 ` Name of the standard library Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 21:56                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26  9:38                                     ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 15:43                         ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 15:58                           ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21  7:15                         ` MSavoritias
2024-07-21  8:04                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-26 16:37                             ` Library names describe APIs Lassi Kortela
2024-07-21 16:50                           ` Name of the standard library Ricardo Wurmus
2024-07-21 13:00                         ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 16:01                       ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-20 16:27                         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-07-20 16:55                           ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-21 12:16                     ` [PATCH] The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Attila Lendvai
2024-07-21 21:10                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-22 14:52                         ` Attila Lendvai
2024-07-20 15:26                   ` Maxime Devos
2024-07-17 11:04         ` Lassi Kortela
2024-06-29 18:38   ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea (was: [PATCH] Add nondestructive delq1, delv1, and delete1.) Jean Abou Samra
2024-06-29 19:02   ` The Guile junk drawer and a C plea Richard Sent
2024-06-29 23:51     ` Thompson, David
2024-06-30  7:23       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-07-01  2:55   ` Maxim Cournoyer

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