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[64.52.176.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q6sm33075000pfh.127.2020.01.18.09.05.34 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:05:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a76kx3g2.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::532 X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.devel:20295 Archived-At: On 1/18/20 6:08 AM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello Guilers! > > The Guile logo has this “GNU extension language” baseline. As Guile 3 > came out, this baseline felt odd to me, not quite corresponding to the > way I see Guile. > > Clearly, Guile is still an extension language, with many great > applications (Gnucash, Lepton-EDA, OpenCog, GDB, etc.), and I’m sure > libguile is here to stay. Yet, to me, “extension language” does not > accurately capture what Guile today allows for and what people have been > doing with it; since 2.0, it’s more than an extension language, even > more so with the performance afforded by Guile 3. > > Thus, I’d propose changing the baseline. Something that would describe > what Guile is to me is: > > GNU, fast, fun, functional > > What’s about you? What’s Guile to you? :-) > > Ludo’. To me "fast, fun, functional" does not distinguish guile very much. I'll throw this out, though I don't think this is that good either: Guile is GNU's functional, high-performance, systems programming implementation. FWIW, I still look to guile for tool extension and integration. Matt