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protected-headers="v1" From: Tim Van den Langenbergh To: Blake Shaw Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <4d937fb3-50d9-17e2-9228-342fdfe5b35d@gmx.com> Subject: Re: Maintenance and future of Guile References: <87r1a8icmd.fsf@nonconstructivism.com> In-Reply-To: <87r1a8icmd.fsf@nonconstructivism.com> --------------HFMvFNkCOCWIAo4QbDnncM1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/12/2021 21:05, Blake Shaw wrote: > hi folks, from what I'm seeing here it seems like there are quite a few= > of us who are interested in engaging in steady, organized participation= > in Guile's upkeep, but we're unsure whether we're qualified. At the sam= e > time Ludo needs to find a replacement and Andy is apparently quite busy= , > and some issues in the ecosystem are apparently starting to show their = teeth. >=20 > personally I've been programming for about 15 years now but my career > has been entirely in new media (video, graphics, audio), so while I've > worked with plenty of lower-level libraries over the years, I didn't > start to get an itch for compilers until covid happened. I was also > doing a PhD in philosophy of mathematics at the time (which I've > postponed indefinitely to prevent being separated from my partner durin= g=20 > covid travel craziness) so I definitely think I have the *potential* to= > contribute to a project like Guile, its just a matter of finding the > time to read some compiler books (which usually are neither short nor e= asy!). >=20 > It sounds like others are coming from similar-ish places: you feel > confident in your abilities to accede to the challenges, but lack the > background that would enable you to take the initiative. So what are we= > TODO? >=20 > In a situation like this, I would recommend that we form a little > working group to collectively study the implementation of Guile, and > with Ludo's suggestions come up with a roadmap for tackling various are= as > of the repo/compiler/infrastructure that need work, which we could then= > divide up among ourselves with each of us creating a presentation on ou= r > assigned areas, with group hack sessions following each bi-weekly (or > whatever) presentation. This way we could distribute the knowledge > aquisicition work in a structured fashion while forming a support group= for > developing a collective understanding of the codebase, as a cohort of > sorts. =20 > =20 > wdyt? >=20 > ez, > blake=20 >=20 That sounds like a good idea, though I wonder what the best way to organi= se it would be. IRC, Mattermost, and Rocket Chat seem like the most obvious options for c= hat. I don't know what would be best for task management, maybe some out-= of-the-box kanban? Ideas, anyone? 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