From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Neil Jerram" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: RFD: drop the GH interface. Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <49dd78620809210240r6a426487xdb893b55519f8ccd@mail.gmail.com> References: <87wshgl5sd.fsf@gnu.org> <871vzhho7c.fsf@gnu.org> <48D26E19.5000301@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221990048 13626 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2008 09:40:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: bkorb@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 11:41:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KhLRl-0005dz-Qb for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:41:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhLQk-0001TT-6D for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KhLQa-0001S1-4O for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KhLQY-0001RJ-1c for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:40:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40421 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhLQX-0001RG-RL for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.246]:29804) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KhLQX-00006J-Bx for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1251023rvb.6 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GvDJT1QcOboyMrNsCl2+7cQr7rZXZzM3QQgiIkXBETI=; b=ekOFeTHJQvmUuX2pyAXw4bVMzrDpIvDegDZIqCprFsIKTpVoYhkmtpUI+re0GZ90OA opELih9owQU3+U+U5lRtk6zpWwwOV49llPvWcl+Vd4UNOOGktP00mzUF9jjwYrm4LWN7 iGBcSXexSSty2Sw6c7LoOFvldZNTLk4JmujI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=roN9utKHb+JBduep0U4FYKUarvO3mHXfONaHOj7890AzWnT4H2+6E6OedLIcqNk8dB vrWR9gPd5aDmoYiOIyyvpC9OMKt1sbEANcbrBNTpr6ltsatNIMFrIJ7lgCANJT24hkbK 26McHi8HGLX6THVr2iKv9CK2Ulc39xnOpbODI= Original-Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr1170541rvd.206.1221990023732; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.140.142.15 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:40:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <48D26E19.5000301@gnu.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:7732 Archived-At: Hi Bruce, and thanks for your input on this... 2008/9/18 Bruce Korb : > > From a Guile-user and not developer perspective, the sequence needs to be: > 1. the most retrograde platform must have all the GH capabilities in > the SCM interfaces for their releases. It seems to take quite a few > years for BSD to get around to building newer versions. Greg has countered this, I believe. Do you still think there's any real concern here? > 2. Once that happens, a couple of years must pass I'm not sure exactly what starting point you mean, but - Guile 1.8.1 was released in October 2006 - the decision to deprecate and eventually remove GH happened in June 2001. > 3. I finally get around to removing GH stuff from my code Just to be clear: are you saying that you still need to do this? > (is there a guide?) Yes, node `Transitioning away from GH' in the manual. (And there's also the GH code, of course, libguile/gh*.) > 4. a couple more years pass Why is this interval needed? > In any case, I would > suggest checking with your "customers" and "redistributors" instead of this > list. I will make an announcement to the guile-users list; that should be enough. (Anyone who is going to use or package a new Guile version needs to be (at least vaguely) following guile-devel or guile-users.) Regards, Neil