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From: "Neil Jerram" <neiljerram@googlemail.com>
To: "Andy Wingo" <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: hanwen@xs4all.nl, guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid `SCM_VALIDATE_LIST ()'
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:40:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49dd78620809061540n24f3fcdbhda4fce25b3fbccc1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ljy7kbvn.fsf@pobox.com>

2008/9/4 Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>:
>
> I think it makes a *lot* of sense to compile elisp to the VM. I don't
> plan on doing so myself, but if the VM gets good enough, it could be
> enhanced with the instructions that elisp needs, if any, and it would be
> possible to run emacs lisp code, and possibly even emacs itself, on
> guile.

That sounds good for elisp code.  For "even emacs itself", the
obstacle is implementing the vast crowd of emacs primitives...

> I don't know where the boundary lies regarding C primitives, though. I
> think we'll eventually want to make VM-implemented functions as fast or
> faster than the C ones, through a tracing JIT or something. So you could
> make elisp reference different C primitives, or implement its primitives
> in elisp (or scheme, or whatever), or make our C primitives do both.

Currently, in lang/elisp/*, a handful of emacs primitives are
implemented in Scheme.  I suspect the only sane long term solution
would involve reuse of the Emacs code - which then would make the
lang/elisp/* experiment converge with Ken Raeburn's experiment.

Regards,
       Neil




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-06 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-31 22:02 [PATCH] Avoid `SCM_VALIDATE_LIST ()' Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-01  0:12 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-01 20:19   ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-01 20:30   ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-02  2:40     ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-06 22:23       ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-06 21:36     ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07  4:23     ` Ken Raeburn
2008-09-07 15:24       ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07 17:30         ` Ken Raeburn
2008-09-07 19:21           ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-08 23:11         ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-09  8:28           ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-10 20:43             ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-04 18:24   ` Andy Wingo
2008-09-05  0:10     ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-05  1:06       ` Andy Wingo
2008-09-06 22:45         ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07  2:33           ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-07 13:38             ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07 15:00               ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-07 16:19                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07 19:25                   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-07 14:05             ` Andy Wingo
2008-09-07 15:38               ` development goals (was: [PATCH] Avoid `SCM_VALIDATE_LIST ()') Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-07 20:03                 ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-08  4:28                   ` development goals Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-08 10:16                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-08 13:57                       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-09  7:08                       ` Andy Wingo
2008-09-08 10:27                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-06 22:40     ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2008-09-01 21:09 ` [PATCH] Avoid `SCM_VALIDATE_LIST ()' Neil Jerram
2008-09-01 21:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-06 22:15     ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-08  9:40       ` Ludovic Courtès
2008-09-06 23:11     ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2008-09-07  2:43       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-07 15:04         ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-07 13:32       ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-02  2:44   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-06 22:32     ` Neil Jerram
2008-09-08  3:13       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2008-09-08  4:42         ` Clinton Ebadi
2008-09-08  9:47           ` Ludovic Courtès

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